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Wednesday, October 04, 2006

Don't Cry For Us

"You can't feel sorry about yourselves. You can't feel sorry about anybody," David Wright said. "It's crunch time. We have to dig deep and see what's left."

No one has pity on New York teams when things go bad. In fact, they probably rather enjoy it. However, there really is no reason for anyone to pity the Mets because they have been doing it all year with rotation being held together by spit and duct tape. One of my bigger issues with this post season was the role the unproven Maine was set to play. It could certainly be argued that John Maine was the Mets best pitcher in the second half, but he was most likely going to skipped when possible in favor of proven veterans.

"Whenever they need me, I'll be available," Maine said. "It's tough. [Hernandez] is a great pitcher, especially in the postseason and he'll be missed. [But] we've got [other] pitchers here who are capable of doing it too, so we'll go out there and pitch our games."

Maine clearly has the best arm of the current staff. He can easily beat the likes of the Dodgers, Padres, or Cardinals. Maine going in game one may seem like the end of the road for the Mets to people that are not Met fans, but anyone who has watched this kid pitch would probably disagree. When he pitches, he keeps this stoic look on face that is either sheer stupidity or utter confidence. I'm not sure which one it is, but either one bodes well because he either does not know enough to be nervous or he just believes in himself a lot. Tonight, he'll have a full house shaking the stadium backing him up.

As of now, The Duque is off the post season roster. If Maine can go out there on regular rest and do his thing with Glavine going out tomorrow and doing his thing, the Mets should be able to buy some time to figure this all out. With a good game, Maine could insert himself as large part to this team's run in the post season which might not have happened prior to The Duque's issue. For insurance, the Mets have chosen to carry Oliver Perez as the probable game four starter if needed. Is The Duque getting injured scary? Shit yeah. Are there positives to be taken out of this? As long as he can return this post season, there are a few positives.

Throughout 2006 the Mets three best pitchers were Tom Glavine, John Maine, and Orlando Hernandez. They won 97 games behind those three, a warm body in Steve Trachsel, and a bunch of retreads. As long as the Mets core starters are able to go in the World Series and the rest of the team plays like they did up to September, this team can still take the entire thing and call me crazy, but I think they have a better chance with John Maine leading the charge.

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  • Frank Thomas is a beast. Physically, he's just a beast.

    Zito dealing against Santana who was also dealing with Thomas' two bombs.... a great way to start the playoffs. I could not be more excited right now.

  • Girardi out, Freddi Gonzalez in.

    "They came in and said, 'We're going to make a change,'" Girardi said. He said no reason was given, and he didn't ask for one.

    Nuts. What Girardi did in 2006 was undeniable. He obviously did not deserve what he got and I'm glad he is gone for my own selfish reasons.

  • With Braden Looper, Mike Cameron, Mike Piazza, Jay Payton, Marco Scutaro and Vance Wilson all in the playoffs, there are ex-Mets dabbling rosters all over the postseason.

  • Dan Graziano is hitting the panic button.

    Conceivably, the Mets' starting rotation for the Division Series could be John Maine, Glavine, Trachsel and Dave Williams.

    Think the Dodgers are shaking yet?

    So yes, it looks bleak, and there is real reason to doubt whether the Mets can even get to the NLCS, let alone the World Series.

    There is, however, a way through all of this.

    "Whoever's pitching, we're just going to try to put runs on the board and hand the ball to the bullpen," right fielder Shawn Green said. "It's worked before."

    Offense and bullpen performance will certainly help, but the Mets have done it all year with like this and last I checked, they are still playing the same NL teams they beat up all year. As long as the Mets have The Duque for the World Series, that is all that matters at this point to me.

  • Newbies? No problem.

    "I think it's prepared us playing in New York all season," Wright said. "We've been under a microscope."

  • Mr. Ocotober Part II? Beltran could certainly start building a legacy if he goes off again in 2006.

    Beltran also set a major league record with 21 runs scored and had an extra-base hit in seven consecutive games. Overall, he batted .435 with 14 RBIs, a huge reason the Mets signed him to a six-year, $119 million contract the following off-season.

    "It seemed like every time up he got a clutch hit or a home run," Tom Glavine said. "It was pretty amazing."

    Did someone say, "Mr. October?"

  • Payback? You better believe it.

    Then as now, the Dodgers are significant underdogs, facing a New York Mets team that established its status as the best team in the NL over the length of the regular season. Adding an exclamation mark to that perceived mismatch in 1988, the East Division champion Mets had beaten the West Division champion Dodgers 10 of 11 times they met in the regular season, outscoring them, 49-18.

    But the Dodgers beat the Mets in seven games in the 1988 NLCS and more implausibly beat the Oakland A's in the World Series.

  • I'm so fucking excited for today's game there is a chance I might puke all over myself. This is what Met fans have been waiting for all season and since 2001's horrible season. The Mets are no longer a laughing stock or whipping boys, but they are the favorites.

    Anonymous Coop said...

    Mike, I'm with you. Let's get this show on the road!!!

    11:50 AM

    Anonymous DG said...

    NO FEAR... They do it or they don't. It has been a great season, and I'd take the Mets with Trachsell pitching all five games (which, thankfully, we don't have to worry about). I'd say that the only thing the current situation brings is an excuse for all the pathetic Yankees fans who'll bash the Mets if they are eliminated before their revered much hallowed bull squat of a team. But NO FEAR, NO PANIC, gentlemen; this is all gravy, a weigh station on the way to a dynasty.

    Did you see Maine's interview on MLB.com? He was dying to get the ball and now he has it. Let's hope he comes out without nerves and with plenty of confidence. He's been the Mets best pitcher for most of the second half of the season. I hope he knows that.

    Let's not expect Beltran to have the playoffs he had two years ago. Mind you, it would be fucking swell if he did, but it's not probable. He does not have to carry the team as much as he needed to carry the Asstros, so I would be satisfied with a notch or two down from 2004 (though we always want more, us greedy piggies!).

    No puking allowed, Mike. This is going to be fun. And the best part is we're going to do it again next year as well!

    12:03 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...

    I pressed the panic button, only because I wanted to see what eye candy you had behind it. Nice job, Mike.

    The Mets are going to be just fine. Don't cry for me, Argentina.

    12:13 PM

    Blogger warmsox said...

    I am going to start drinking at 4 and I'm not going to stop until tomorrow.


    12:32 PM

    Anonymous joe said...

    Look for me at the game in loge, I will have a giant mustache sign in support of my favorite met mr. valentin!

    12:40 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Yes....yes. I don't believe in god, but I believe in John Maine!

    DG...that's loser talk. Do or do not...there is not try. Like David Wright said, anything less than a World Series ring is failure.

    Beltran is unstoppable when he is on and he is on for most of the year. It could happen....He's sick.

    Ok, no puking allowed....I did say might puke though, so I'm not 100% confident I will....unless I drink myself into oblivian, which is possible too.

    Nice job pressing the button Andy. I forgot it existing.

    12:53 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    I'm with your warmsox...I'm going to get lit tonight with an eye on trying to figure out how to get through work alive on Thursday and off to the game and more drinking after work and at the game. I will take pictures so I remember all of this.

    Joe, do it...I'll have a huge fake mole on for Beltran. you won't be able to miss me.

    12:55 PM

    Blogger AE said...

    i might be the only guy to think this, but traxx will be fine. he rose to the occasion in the division clinching game at shea. you could sense the purpose that he was pitching with. it was stevie traxx pitching with playoff intensity. and don't forget, the other team (the marlins) were still fighting for a wildcard so it wasn't like the fish rolled over...

    give me a traxx over a full season, and i want to throw up. traxx in the postseason seems like he'll do alright...

    1:40 PM

    Blogger Mike said...

    There once was a team that finished 82-79 that was 2nd to last in hitting in the NL and 3rd in pitching. 2 of their 3 top starters had losing records for the season. Their top hitter hit .279 with 79 RBI's. This team finished the season 20-9 from 9/1 to win their division over the Cardinals by 1.5 games. Then they beat the Big Red Machine in the NLCS and took the Oakland A's to 7 games in the World Series.

    Ya' Gotta Believe!

    1:40 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    Mike, loser talk? I think I was going for the zen vibe personally (while also noting that the Yanks fans have lost their chance to gloat in the unfortunate circumstance). Point is that this has been a great season, and I have faith in this bunch. The ride is the thing, and that's what I was aiming for: don't worry about where it's going, just let it happen and enjoy.

    Now, a brief moment to incite some speculation among those not going to the game today. Willie said today that he had not decided yet whether he would start Trachs or Oliver Perez in Game 3. Further, he said he wasn't beyond starting JMaine on short rest in Game 4.

    So,... my question is what were Trachsell's family issues? And what if they were actually anger issues? Had the Mets told him something he didn't want to hear? I wrote this jokingly here once, but Willie threatening Oliver P in L.A. has got to make you wonder.

    Or maybe - having completely ignored any Yankee's playoffs (excepting when they were facing the Mets) in my life, is this some sort of Yankee tradition that Willie has grown into aimed at confusing the competition by limiting preparation time?

    2:16 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Traxx rise to the occassion? We'll see man, I personally hate the stupid look on his face. He irrates me so much.

    Mike, good stuff. I agree, the Mets can take it Duque-less or not.

    Zen...loser, what's the difference.

    The Trachsel thing is certainly perplexing and now there seems a possibility he doesn't pitch at all? Weird.

    OP has it in him to complete shut down himself or the other team. Everyone will be on the edge of their seats for that one.

    Willie has no clue what he's doing. I'm still convinced of that.

    2:19 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...

    That team that took the A's to 7 would have won it if they didn't lose Rusty Staub to injury, and Mr October didn't go absolutely sick in the Series. Ya GOTTA Believe!

    If Maine wins today, you have your title for tomorrow's post - 'Remember the Maine'

    I bought a 4-pack of Dogfish Head 90 day IPA for tonight. I hope I can get off the sofa after the game.

    2:19 PM

    Anonymous Scott said...

    John Maine, Glavine, Trachsel and Dave Williams.- Damn, I'll take that rotation of starters over any other 4 in the playoffs!

    Ok there are no superstars, no Zito's, no Santana'a but there is also no huge drop off in talent either. Each of these guys WILL pitch 6+ solid innings and keep us in EVERY game not just 1 in 3 or 1 in 4.

    Something NOBODY is talking about, OUR BULLPEN IS #1 in the NL and #2(at least equal to Minnisota) to the Tigers. And unlike every other team, WE ARE BALANCED AND BALANCED TEAMS WIN WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! We dont rely on 2 pitchers, 3 hitters or a closer. This team can win small ball or long ball, can out pitch, out hit, out run, out steal, out everything every other team.


    2:25 PM

    Anonymous Scott said...

    The 3 things Omar will be chasing in the offseason;




    2:28 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Andy, I love the title. He will be reaching immortal status if he wins today and puts up a few more Ws.

    IPA? You had some crazy beer two years ago too. I just roll with the 30 pack of PBR cans....I love it.

    Scott, that rotation is straight blue collar. I like it.

    The Mets do have the most well balanced team and that will help them overcome. No other team can boast what the Mets ahve in terms of balance.

    150% with you on Zito. Get it done. He is a certifiable ace, I don't care what anyone says.

    2:34 PM

    Anonymous JohnF said...

    OT - in an article about Showalter getting canned, the writer mentioned that the Rangers have a bunch of free agents - to - be, including Carlos Lee.

    What do you guys think about making a run at Mark DeRosa? He could split time with stache at 2nd, back up Wright at 3rd, and fill the 4th/5th outfielder role. This would mean the end for Woody.


    2:39 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Considering the Mets have one foot in the grave, who will you guys root for when they get knocked off? I'm really liking the A's. They have a couple of former Mets, Dan Haren, and the entertaining duo of Nick Swisher and Milton Bradley.



    2:47 PM

    Anonymous brian b said...

    I've wanted Maine in the post season rotation for a while now, allthough i was more eyeballing losing stevie trash not el duque.

    I think i might try to stay sober for thursdays game so i remeber (who am i kidding i'll be drunk by the 5th inning)

    The only team i'm rooting for this post season emad is the mets, only way we have one foot in the grave is if we are having some corpse love with dodger fans, necrophilia for the win.

    2:53 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    DeRosa would be solid. I'll take him to start fo sho'.

    A's are up there for me. I'd go with them, but it ain't over until it's over. The Mets are in it.

    3:02 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...

    I live half a mile from New Britain Stadium, home of the Rock Cats, Twins AA team, so I'm rooting for them. It's not looking good for them, either. When it comes right down to it, I'm rooting for whoever is playing against the yankers, if the Mets are out of it.

    If the Mets are out of it? Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    3:03 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    Just to clarify, corpe Dodger love isn't sex with Lasorda, is it?

    Zen, loser, what's the difference? Classic.

    3:05 PM

    Anonymous brian b said...

    Sidd I'm not looking to pick hairs here but it was indeed the japenese that bombed pearl habor but, i got your drift.

    I'm sitting here watching the A's and Twins game and I have to say i almost feel like this will be the best series all postseason. Don't get me wrong i'll be glued to the TV / my seat for every mets playoff game but, something about Twins vs A's its just damn fun to watch (especially since i don't have anything emotionally invested in it).

    3:07 PM

    Anonymous Coop said...

    Brian B - i take it you've never seen Animal House

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor! HELL NO!

    PS Morneau just went deep for Twins, tied game in 6th. I'm liking the Twins.

    3:10 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Brian...Brian..Brian...we'll let that slide!

    3:24 PM

    Anonymous brian b said...

    last tiem i saw animal house was probably like 11 years ago. I'll assume it's a funny line from a drunken jimmy B.

    IS anybody else watchign this A's game? its fucking nuts!!!!

    3:28 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Drunkin Jimmy B it was.

    No A's game...I'm trying to get out of work so I can watch me some Mets baseball.

    3:31 PM

    Anonymous Benny said...

    Lets fucking go Mets!
    The team is now rested on the shoulder of Oliver Perez, lol. Jeeze louise, I don't trust him.

    Guys I'm having a big wardrobe problem.
    Pinstripe Beltran jersey or Black Reyes jersey for tomorrow?

    Also, for whoever DOESNT have an HDTV GET ONE NOW! It kicks ass. It has been one of the best investments I've ever made.
    Two problem however. The closeups on Randy Johnson's neck? Ugh god. Fucking gross. It's been one of the nastiest things I've ever seen.
    Another complaint? The detail of the TV is soo good, I was actually able to see and be disgusted by Carlos Guillen's incredibly hairy chest and saw tons of hair coming out of his back and into the back of his neck.

    3:41 PM

    Anonymous brian b said...


    i'd go with the black reyes jersey

    4:18 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...


    Only seen that once before, it was a Red Sox Game.

    4:41 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...


    Only seen that once before, it was a Red Sox Game.

    4:41 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...


    Only seen that once before, it was a Red Sox Game.

    4:41 PM

    Anonymous sidd finch said...

    sorry about the triple post, my machine hung up, and I kept clicking enter!

    4:42 PM

    Anonymous brian b said...

    sidd, thats fine, that DESERVED a triple post.

    4:44 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    We got power baby. Nice to see Cliffy looking like Cliffy!

    5:25 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    Anyone want to explain going with Mota for two innings?

    6:31 PM

    Anonymous benny said...

    Mota was kept in for 2 innings so they could purposely lose the lead and have Wright show Jeter who the real Playoff Clutch man, really is!

    Fucking awesome game.

    6:44 PM

    Anonymous brian b said...

    Mota probably would have been out of it a little nicer if Valentin had gone for the out at first.

    6:59 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    No doubt very true Brian, seems like this season has shown more than ever the cost of errors, the cost of walks.

    7:01 PM

    Anonymous benny brizzle hypdizzle mets kick assizzle said...

    I'm in there tomorrow

    7:23 PM

    Anonymous Happy DG said...

    Well the Mets looked more like the Mets than they've looked in a while! The top six operated like they were designed too, and the only person I have to say I'm disappointed in is Green who seemed slower than Cliffy in the outfield and not too proficient in the seven hole. Beltran on a quiet night gets on base three times without a hit forcing teams to deal with Delgado out of the stretch. Delgado, Wright and Cliffy with a vintage swing circa 2005. Maine does his job, but it was the right move to go for the Feliciano/Bradford tandem in that situation. At least it was this time. Heilman looks mean, throws mean.

    Mike, my argument against Billy Wagner for CY Young can be summated by tonights appearance. Statistically he has done the job, but it was too tight for the elite. He is not the lights out guy he was a couple of years ago (but I'm damn happy to have him here!). How is he going to respond as the pressure gets even deeper? I hope Peterson gets him to develop another pitch next year.

    All said though a great game with great portent! Tomorrow we pummell a rookie lefty...

    7:33 PM

    Anonymous jake said...


    9:07 PM

    Anonymous jake said...

    also, i just looked over at the tv on mute and saw a shot of a bunch of loser yankees fans in the rain looking miserable. fuckin hilarious.

    9:08 PM

    Anonymous seattle steve said...

    A win is a win is a win.
    Pardon the pun but we "dodged" a bullet in the 2nd inning.

    1:48 AM

    Anonymous metfaninutah said...

    Anybody else extremely glad they skipped work yesterday to watch the game. Let's get 'er done again tonight in game two!

    10:39 AM


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