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Sunday, November 05, 2006

Fantasy Sunday

I for one love speculating about trade proposals. It's fun to live in a fantasy land sometimes and I mentioned Jake Peavy as a potential trading chip for the Padres the other day and Joel Sherman seems to think the same thing.

Would you do it?

Aaron Heilman, Lastings Milledge and Henry Owens to the Padres; Jake Peavy to the Mets

The big question, though, is about Peavy. He had an iffy season (11-14, 4.09 ERA) in a pitcher's park and has some history of shoulder problems. But there is plenty to like. He is the kind of power arm Minaya has been pursuing (second most strikeouts over the past two years behind only Johan Santana). Despite the arm frets, he has made 62 starts the last two seasons. He has won in double digits four consecutive years, yet at 25, is still a year younger than Chien-Ming Wang. And with three years at $18.75 million left on his pact, he is reasonably priced. It seems a risk worth taking for the Mets because front-of-the-rotation starters are just that hard to find. They have inquired about the White Sox's Freddy Garcia, but the request of Milledge and Phil Humber or Mike Pelfrey is too much for a pitcher a year from free agency. And they are conflicted whether to spend substantially on Zito.

If the cost is Milledge, Heilman, and a lesser prospect, then fantastic. I would do it. The best part? The Mets retain Phil Humber and Mike Pelfrey. Pedro, Glavine, Peavy, and The Duque/Maine/Perez starting in the second half of 2007? Start saving for your World Series tickets now.

While there are a lot of people that would be hesitant to make this move, I am sure the Mets can get a one year solution for left while Carlos Gomez and Fernando Martinez can continue to be fast tracked to get up to snuff. I still love Milledge's potential, but for a Cy Young caliber pitcher? I'm drooling. I know people have soured on Peavy a bit after a down '07, but for me, he is still one of the best in the league.

He had a rough first half with a 4.46 ERA, but did recover in the second half to post a 3.68 ERA. His away ERA is a bit of a concern, but you have to love his peripherals still with his 9+ k/9 and solid control. Give him some work with Professor Rick and the Mets could have the most dominant staff in the league if Pedro can return and pitch like we he used to be able to. If Pedro doesn't come back? The Mets have their bonafide ace that can bring it at 97 mph.


Anonymous benny said...

Damn I feel bad for you, you spent all your valuable time writing this and nobody even left a comment.
Whomp Whomp

Milledge, Heilman, and Owens for Jake Peavy. Yes. He's young, VERY affordable and he's under control for another 3 years, you can't beat that at all. It provides an ace with tons of flexability. And with Carlos Gomez and F-Mart, it makes it a little easier to trade Milledge.

Hopefully this isn't just fantasy bullshit because this is getting me excited.

9:47 PM

Anonymous brian b said...

jake peavy is cool.

10:03 PM

Blogger Itsmetsforme said...

I was just gonna leave a comment for the same reason.

I dunno, Peavy's arm trouble, that seems too much to give up to the Pads--a potential midrotation starter, a potential blue chip LF,AND that guy from Black Flag who does the hardcore singing and spoken word poetry to boot!

Here are hotstove senarios I would be comfortable with, mind you not necessarily the best for the team.

1)We could continue to play the post-K*zmir game, spending big money and holding on to our prospects so we don;t make "that mistake" again. Hold Milledge and Heilman. Massage Aaron into the starting rotation maybe. Make a play for Matsuzaka. Buy Zito. Make an offer to Mulder for insurance. Let the offense mature and take care of itself.

2) Sign someone like Schmidt. Get revenge on Japanese leagues by publically passing on Matsuzaka, making a damaging, Steve Phillips-like quote about $24 mil for one or something. Do little else, hope that the young guys can fill out the bottom 3 slots, invest in bullpen, bench and a shiny offensive part.

3) we could let Heilman and or Milledge go for something good, real good. If that turns out to be a D-Train, Ozwalt type, I could live with that. But then you have to patch the pen take a serious look at Sori.

4)Just Get Zito for christs sake. If Glavine returns, they;d be pretty much in the same spot they were last year, and that didn't turn out too too badly. Not what we hoped, and not overpowering, but hey.

I don't know why i numbered these, there is no pretense of systematized organized thought here. Just off the top of my head. My point is, there are a lot of acceptible senarios I can imagine that won't freak me out if they came to pass.

10:04 PM

Anonymous Scott said...

One line sums up this potential trade..."arm trouble." NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Just what we want, another ace on the DL.

Zito and Soriano will do us fine and prep Milledge for RF or move him and Heilman in a 3-way for crawford.

10:27 PM

Anonymous fuck dayn perry said...

How about Heilman and Milledge to Toronto for Vernon Wells?

10:44 PM

Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

itsmetsforme, the thing, all your talking about is "potential".
And with Heilman your talking about potential on a 28 year old guy.
And Milledge I love his potential and would love him on the team but I think he's replacable.
The reason I lik Milledge soo much is because he's young, cheap, and under control for a long time. But he is replacable and potential.
His replacement might be much more expensive but hey... whatever, what you gonna do?

I would be VERY comfortable with Peavy coming ot the Mets in that trade. I mean, guys, this is an ace we're talking about here. An ace who's 25 years old, those aren't easy to find. If you want one of those your gonna have to give up something. But whatever, this is a made up bullshit trade by Sherman anyway...

Although the negative is the shoulder problems he's had... fuckles. Oh well, i'd take the risk and go for it, fuck it. Sometimes you gotta take risks and this is as good as any.

10:46 PM

Anonymous benny said...

According to the forecaster, these are the injuries he's had.

06-Jun-06 Missed 3 games (shoulder injury).

04-Jun-06 Shoulder injury, day-to-day.

16-Sep-05 Missed 9 games (shoulder injury).

06-Sep-05 Shoulder injury, day-to-day.

08-Jun-05 Missed 2 games (upper respiratory infection).

05-Jun-05 Upper respiratory infection, day-to-day

So that's 4 different shoulder problems and 2 respiratory problems, which were both in 2005.
But even though it was 4 different times, it was obvious the Padres rushed him to come back. I'll say 2 different shoulder problems with 4 times for missing games.

I'll still take him.

11:11 PM

Anonymous Sidd Finch said...

I'd do it if Owens were not included. I'm sorry, I don't want to give up a guy who throws that hard.

11:14 PM

Anonymous Farva said...

I like the idea of Zito and Soriano much more than Peavy. We are giving up way too much for Peavy in this deal.

I'd prefer Mulder to Peavy anyway.

11:42 PM

Blogger Emad Mekhaeil said...

'Would you do it?

Aaron Heilman, Lastings Milledge and Henry Owens to the Padres; Jake Peavy to the Mets'

YES! C'mon! Peavy's peripherals were almost exactly the same as 2005, except he gave up more hits and five more HR's. (off the top of my head)

You can trade an underwhelming, overhyped, egocentric prospect, a bullpen project and an excellent 28 yo reliever who wants to start for Jake fucking Peavy? What a country!

12:33 AM

Blogger adenzeno said...

No- Peavy's mechanics are not good, hence his shoulder problems- watch him pitch and tell me thats a sound fluid delivery- there is a reason PEDRO!! has been able to pitch as he has, even wi the bad shoulder

8:31 AM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sidd - Henry Owens will be 28 in April. It's not like he's a young stud pitcher.

I would try and get D-Train over Peavy.

9:24 AM


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