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Thursday, October 12, 2006

Uh-Oh

St. Louis Cardinals? Lucky.

Which means that now, not only are John Maine and Oliver Perez regulars in the Mets' playoff rotation, but there's a chance that the Mets would have to bring Darren Oliver out of the bullpen to start Game 5. That, or use Game 1 starter Tom Glavine on three days' rest instead of his regular four.

Mr. Graziano brings up a valid, valid point, but I do think that this decision should be solely based on what the situation is. If the game is a must win game, you have go with Tom Glavine. If the Mets are looking for one game to close it out, give Darren Oliver a go and try and win one of the last three with your two best pitchers on more rest. You can look at the disturbing fact of how beat up the Mets rotation is, but at least they have four starters. Given what they went through, it is hard to believe they even have four serviceable starters to run with.

Is Oliver Perez or Darren Oliver ideal? Fuck no, but they have the ability to do it. Darren wouldn't be asked to go seven innings and throw a shut-out and neither is Perez. The road will certainly not be easy for the Mets and at this point it seems that Anderson Hernandez being included on the roster instead of Dave Williams looks like a regrettable move, but it is what it is. A stretch of games in which a rookie is pitcher, Steve Trachsel is pitching, Oliver Perez is pitching, and possibly Darren Oliver, this bullpen is going to be in for a workout. Hopefully Chris Woodward hurts himself tying his shoe or something because another arm would help.

Inexplicably though, it seems as though the Cardinals are sticking to their regular rotation.

Still, La Russa said last night that he was inclined to keep his rotation as it is, with Jeff Weaver and Jeff Suppan pitching at Shea in Games 1 and 2, and Carpenter pitching at home in Game 3.

"I don't think there's a benefit to changing with Chris," La Russa said.


Of course, anything can change, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The Mets are in dire need of taking the first two with how their rotation is shaping up in the following three games. Sure, Carpenter will still only get two games in the series no matter how you shake things out, but having him on the bench as they get eliminated in game six would certainly make LaRussa's decision a colossal blunder. The other thing lost in all of this and you hate to look forward, but with the way the Tigers are playing, the Mets might have to face a well rested team with sparkling pitching in the World Series should they move on past the Cardinals. The Mets pitching will most likely be beleaguered after this series with the Cardinals so going forward it is going to be a true test for this team.

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  • I don't value anyone's life over anyone else's and I'm not going mention how small the game of baseball is because we all know it's a game. Everyone gets it. It is horrible when anyone dies regardless if they are a ballplayer, actor, Brazilian hooker, or an accountant. I feel horrible for everyone that was connected to everyone who died and this type of stuff happens. However, the news sickens me. Especially the local news. I get the fact that tragedy is much more interesting to report than happy news, but here is an example of one news tease:

    "A Yankee pitcher dies in a plane crash, news at 11:00."

    Cory Lidle is a name that 90% of the public won't know so if they say his actual name in the tease, it's a non-story for a lot of people because most people do not care when non-famous/uninteresting people die. Jon Hooker was a minor league ball player that died and it went largely unnoticed. I had two people ask me yesterday that are not baseball fans ask me if he is good as if that makes a difference. If it was Derek Jeter, the news would have JFK Jr.-like coverage with millions in mourning. But it was Lidle, so they had to keep it vague in hopes more people tune in. In reality, the coverage was excessive. It was a tragic death and hearing how his wife was flying back to LA and had to be met by Homeland Security to get news was disheartening. However, Local News has lost perspective and is totally irrelevant in the world at this point. Overall, news is now based on fear mongering and sensationalism and throws integrity out the window. Who needs integrity anyway?


  • On my way to work, some guy had this one his car:

    IF YOUR CHILD DOES NOT HAVE THEIR SEATBELT ON YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE.

    Asshole was in large letters in case you were wondering while the other words were in lettering rather small, so you had to tailgate to read it. I'm perplexed as to what would drive a person to actually put that on their car.

  • Cliff is a solid citizen.

    "This is a huge time and you just want to be a part of it to help this team win," Floyd said. "It might be my last season playing with the Mets, so I don't want to go out that way."

    I hope people don't remember his as the oft-injured player he is, but the tremendous teammate he has been and the effect he has had on this current Met team, especially David Wright.

  • Pedro is feeling good and looks to be recovering nicely.

    "I'm very, very optimistic and very happy about the results," Martinez said. "Right now, the doctor just told me today that I looked like a month after surgery - and it's only been a week - because of the way everything is moving around and the way that I'm feeling and the way my flexibility is reacting to the surgery. That's more than good news."

  • Secondary pitches be damned, Mike Pelfrey was named as the #3 prospect in the Eastern League by Baseball America.

    3. Mike Pelfrey, rhp, Binghamton (Mets)
    B-T: R-R Ht: 6-7 Wt: 210 Age: 22 Drafted: Mets '05 (1)
    Like Garza, a fellow college righthander drafted in 2005, Pelfrey made a quick ascent to the big leagues in his first full pro season. The last first-rounder to sign, accepting a $5.25 million big league contract in January, he was starting at Shea Stadium six months later.

    Pelfrey's command is not as good as Garza's, in part because he rotates his lower half too much in his delivery, but he too pitches off his fastball. It's a 70 pitch on the 20-80 scouting scale and one of the best fastballs in the minors, more for its late life than its velocity. It has heavy sink when it's down in the zone and comes in at 93-95 mph, touching 97.

    Pelfrey needs to improve the consistency of his secondary stuff and have more conviction in it. His changeup is his second-best pitch and has the potential to be an above-average offering. His curveball remains slurvy, though he throws it at 82-86 mph.


    I still believe, but I believe in Phil Humber a bit more at this point.

    8. Carlos Gomez, of, Binghamton (Mets)
    B-T: R-R Ht: 6-4 Wt: 190 Age: 20 Signed: Mets FA '02
    Gomez is the youngest position player on this list as well as the toolsiest. He skipped high Class A at age 20 and got better as the season wore on, coming back strong after missing three weeks with a back injury near midseason.

    Gomez has pop in his bat, plus speed, a well above-average arm and good defensive ability. His approach is too aggressive and he needs to improve his situational hitting, but he recognizes pitches well and drives the ball to all parts of the field. He already is an accomplished basestealer, swiping 41 bags in 50 tries.

    "He swings out of his ass. He really takes a hellacious cut," a scout said. "But he has a natural swing path and maybe the best bat speed in the league, well above and beyond Lind and Casto. This guy excites me."


    I thought Gomez would be high and he really opened some eyes this season. That quote was a curious one, but I think I'll take it.

    As for the International League, Milledge stopped in at #2.

    2. Lastings Milledge, of, Norfolk (Mets)
    B-T: R-R Ht: 6-1 Wt: 185 Age: 21 Drafted: Mets '03 (1)
    Milledge's improved plate discipline with Norfolk earned him his first major league promotion when Xavier Nady went to the disabled list in late May. While he didn't set the world on fire as a rookie, Milledge showed flashes of what he can do. Scouts agree that it will take him time to apply all his talents.

    Milledge's bat just rips through the zone and will allow him to produce for both average and power. A plus runner, he should improve as a basestealer (13-for-23) once he learns to pick his spots better. He has slightly above-average range and a solid arm, and while he's capable in center field he'll probably play on the corner with Carlos Beltran on the Mets.


    I still believe in Lastings, but it seems the ability is not going to be his biggest obstacle but him understanding his place in the world of baseball and on the Mets. How much is overblown by the media and is true? Who knows, but it seems clear there is at the very least a little something going on with him.
  • 33 Comments:

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    Wouldn't the cardinals have the same problem?
    Hey i wouldn't mind facing Weaver on short rest.

    That bumper sticker might be wierd but whoever he was, does have a point. You should always have your seat belt on. It bothers me when I'm in a car any somebody doesn't have it on.

    Carlos Gomez just needs coaching. ANd needs someone to put things in perspectives for him, ie. do not swing out of your ass.

    I think Milledge's reputation is already set in stone. He's gonna be driven to a point that he's almost forced to be an asshole. They're gonna bother the kid until he blows up.
    The media has made up its mind and there's nothing Milledge can do to shake off the "asshole" tag.
    Oh well, expect him to get loud and "make a scene" somewhere down the line in his career.

    The whole Cory Lidle thing is just a sad, sad, thing.

    12:32 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    The Cardinals do, but I do not care about them. The Mets have possibly four guys in a row with two guys who didn't make it through five in their last start, one guy in Perez who might not and another who most likely won't just because his arm might not be stretched out enough.

    Benny...no bumper sticker. Custom...all letters put on his back window. Good message? Of course. But I don't have 'eat your fuit and veggies or you suck yak testicles' on my car...just weird.

    Good point on the Milledge thing. It's scary.

    1:01 PM

     
    Anonymous benny said...

    All I've got to say about the Cardinals and thier starting and bullpen pitching is this.
    Your not playing against the San Diego Padres anymore.
    And these aren't the other bums in the Central like the Pirates, Astros, and Cubs.
    This is a real deal offense.

    And umm, the dude that wrote it on his car is wierd, haha. Psycho.

    1:08 PM

     
    Blogger Toasty Joe said...

    "Overall, news is now based on fear mongering and sensationalism and throws integrity out the window. "

    No doubt about it. Sad but true. If only the media actually did their jobs, things might be very different in the world right now.

    1:08 PM

     
    Blogger Kenny said...

    Nice takes on both death and the media. They both suck, though in completely different ways.

    So the asshole was spelled out, like with individual letters? That's something. My guess would be that the dude probably lost a child, sending him somewhat over the edge.
    I wouldn't mind a "you are a douchefuck if you support the Yankee's sticker. I could roll with that.

    Any word on when the lottery notice comes out for the World Series? I signed up. If I get tickets, I plan to drive up from South Carolina by myself and then start driving home when the game is over.

    1:15 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    I remember (before internet of course) how my grandparents used to watch the local news like it was their religion. I'm sure a lot of people did. Now? It's a joke.

    Everything was individual letters like he went to the store and bought the letters and put them on. Really, really, weird.

    Douchefuck? New word? That rivals swellicious.

    No word on the lottery. I have not heard much about it overall. Call 718-577-TIXX if you want some info. I'm sure they can assist.

    1:22 PM

     
    Blogger Kenny said...

    Douchefuck is reletively new to my vocabulary. You can't go wrong with a compound word that consists of two of your favorite words.

    You tend to know stuff...
    Doesn't Glavine usually suck ass when he's on short rest? I feel like I remember him going a few times in the last couple of years on short rest and getting blown up. I've gone from very confident to cautiously optimistic.

    1:44 PM

     
    Anonymous jake said...

    way to roll out the classic comments Benny. Namely:

    "someone to put things in perspectives for him, ie. do not swing out of your ass"

    and

    "Your not playing against the San Diego Padres anymore.
    And these aren't the other bums in the Central like the Pirates, Astros, and Cubs."

    2:19 PM

     
    Anonymous Coop said...

    Well, did you guys ever see Major League? how about Happy Gilmore?

    Remember when Jake Taylor stood up in front of the team, when they found out the owner was deliberately driving the team into the ground? He said "We have one thing left to do...win the whole...F**KIN'...thing."

    Happy Gilmore said when he was faced with either tying Shooter McGavin and playing to break the draw or beating him right there said, "No, I'll just beat him right here."

    This whole Tom Glavine thing pitching on short rest will be a non-issue when the Stems sweep the Cards.

    OK, maybe a bit of a stretch...but we've seen weirder things happen.

    Or at the very least, maybe it will rain one day in St Lou.

    Hey. it could happen.

    2:20 PM

     
    Anonymous jake said...

    the only thing about this that scares me is that molina has been known to throw out even reyes.

    and by scares me i mean scares molina.

    bottom line: the cards aren't as good as the mets.

    2:21 PM

     
    Anonymous Coop said...

    PS Jake, you said what I wanted to say before, just forgot.

    In the "Bad Guys Won," Pearlman writes about the 86 team...after Mike Scott, the Astros had no one. After Hurst or Clemens, the Sox had crap. Well, we could argue that after Carp, the Cards have no one.

    Of course, none of the past means diddly in the here and now, but it's something I tend to reflect on when people start to count us out. Again. (And I do it so *I* don't count the Mets out!)

    2:22 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    Glavine sucks on short rest, but as he said in an article today, he said that in the playoffs, your adrenaline usually helps you out. He'll be ready if needed basically. Tough call, but I think you put your best foot forward in six and seven rather than risk having him useless on short rest.

    Cooop predicting a sweep? Swellicious. The Mets are undefeated in October so far and they are 5-0. Another eight in row possibly? Ok, maybe not, but I'll take four here and figure the rest out later.

    Molina will keep this team in check, but they had Molina in the regular season too when the Mets won 4 of 6.

    As for the Cards having no one after Carp, the '86 Mets were deeper pitching wise. Carpenter could be a force, but he is not Johan.

    2:28 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    Oh, I'll be there tonight....Mezz section 22, row G, seat 12....I think I said 20 last time.

    2:28 PM

     
    Anonymous benny said...

    I wont be there tonight :(
    I'm trying REAL hard to work some magic and go tomorrow.

    2:34 PM

     
    Anonymous Coop said...

    I'm in Mezz Sec 14, box 572C

    Maybe you can see the Hell Yeah Bitches club. Tee hee :-)

    2:36 PM

     
    Anonymous Coop said...

    Mike, I used to sit in Mezz Sec 22 back in the day. Rowdy crowd. Enjoy!

    2:37 PM

     
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I'm surprised LaRussa is not starting Carpenter in G2&6. Suppan's home ERA is 2 runs better than on the road. It's not like Carpenter will be pitching on short rest. G2 is on his normal schedule. Oh well...

    I agree, if the Mets are down or facing elimination, Glavine better take the ball in G5. Realistically, with the starting pitching, we all would sign up for 5+ innings from the Mets starters in the postseason.

    You have to love LoDuca. That press conference was classic. You know he wanted to say "you are a fucking idiot, now shut the fuck up"

    The way Fatso was talking yesterday on the FAN, you would have thought the President had died. A Yankee player died tragically (yes it's a sad and awful story), but the way they were talking, it was like the fucking world ended.

    -Bada

    2:46 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    Aight...Coop, we'll be close. Stand in front of Section 22 and give everyone the finger so I'll know who you are. I'll be wearing more brown that anyone in the stadium...brown is the new perrywinkle....

    Bada, it's f-in ponderous, but I won't aruge.

    Glavine should take the ball facing elimination, but chew on this. If he is cruising tonight, the Mets CANNOT take him out to save his arm like the 1st series. They need to save the pen as much as possible. Ideally he goes seven and Robo goes two....So Glavine should be reasonably spent tonight barring an early exit via pounding.

    I don't envy Omar and Willie right now.

    LoDuca is the man...I cannot say enough that I was really wrong about the guy. Stand up citizen.

    A Yankee player died tragically (yes it's a sad and awful story), but the way they were talking, it was like the fucking world ended.

    Agreed man.

    2:57 PM

     
    Anonymous DG said...

    Looks like the Cards are re-thinking Carpenter in 3 & 7 and will likely go with him in 2 & 6. Only plus in that I think is keeping him out of game 7 where he could potentially dominate against... Steve Trachsel?!!

    Oliver in Game 5 is a dumb idea. He's reverted to the long ball allowed syndrome that has mostly characterized his career to this point. The best thing the Mets could do here is sweep. Trachs is in line to pitch any eventual game 7, but he won't have to as it will be decided by game 6.

    Milledge in the #2 spot? Let's trade him now. He stinks. He ought to be starting in the corner outfield next year. Mets should suggest he take a course in relating to people, namely his teammates.

    Let's not forget that many a player has been an egotistical a-whole and still succeeded in the game. Start with Ty Cobb and work through 2006. Milledge's attitude problems are real but way over-reported & over-hyped in the media.

    Major League Baseball broke my heart when they scheduled tomorrow's game at 2 a.m., Paris time. How am I going to stay up every night?

    3:18 PM

     
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    *Pelfrey's command is not as good as Garza's*
    Tall pitchers normally have problems with command. In time, his control will improve nicely. His command is very good for a power pitcher.

    *It's a 70 pitch on the 20-80 scouting scale and one of the best fastballs in the minors, more for its late life than its velocity.*
    Only a 70, eh? It's an 80, douche. Take a look at the minor league and college numbers. His miniscule HR rate is a clue. If the fastball hits spots, nobody short of Ryan Howard puts it anywhere close to the warning track. If Pelf doesn't hang two straight sliders to Hanley, his ERA is lower and the HR column would still read '0'.

    Though i'm down on Pelfrey, he doesn't need to improve very much to be a solid #3.

    *Milledge's bat just rips through the zone and will allow him to produce for both average and power.*
    Meh. Milledge. I really hate his swing. I don't think he'll hit for a high average or a high slugging percentage. What do you think about that, smart guy? Nyuk Nyuk.

    After Lidle's death, the passion I had for winning went straight out the proverbial window. It's placed a pall over this NLCS. Fuck the Cardinals... let THEM get swept by the Tigers. With all the injuries this team has, and the power outages from Wright and Beltran, it doesn't have much of a shot against the Tigers anyway.

    Emad

    3:25 PM

     
    Blogger Jonas said...

    Is anyone else not happy with the ticket situation now? The fact that Game 1 tickets are now for Friday's Game 2...

    I'm way pissed off as I wanted to go to Game 1, which in my opinion is way different then a Game 2. My ticket has no date on it (just the words Game 1) and Game 2 tickets also have not date, so I would assume that my Game 1 ticket is valid for Game 1 WHENEVER it is played.

    Maybe I'm the only one...but I call Bullsh*t.

    3:57 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    Traxx game seven? I'd rather go with Glavine on no days rest.

    It really is the smart thing for the Cardinals.

    DG, your sweep idea is a brilliant one. I'm on board.

    The off hour game things is what we deal with for the World Cup....not so much this year, but when it was in Korea. I think a Met win will make everything better.

    Pelfrey's command for a power pitcher is more than very good....and agreed. He's almost a #3, so his upside is immense, but I don't think it's that easy to learn pitches or every pitcher would. There are plenty of guys with lively fastballs that have nothing else.

    Emad! You thought they were dead in the NLDS...they kicked ass....still down on them?

    Jonas, you simply cannot screw up two games worth of tickets. You cannot make game #1s tonight, that is just nuts. People plan on things and game #1's peoples already had to adjust. Makeing two games worth of people adjust is not going to happen...ever.

    4:06 PM

     
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    *Emad! You thought they were dead in the NLDS...they kicked ass....still down on them?*
    Look, it's one thing to beat the Dodgers and even the Cardinals, but to beat any AL team will require us at full strength. We ain't close to full strength.

    Wright's a better player than Inge. Beltran is better than Granderson. Our offense is better... it's just not better right now [with Wright and Beltran reduced to gap hitting] against the Tigers pitching.

    Beltran has a tear in his upper abdomen.

    Wright's bat speed has gone to shite.

    Floyd is hobbling on one leg.

    Green stinks.

    Valentin has regressed at the worst possible time.

    Reyes is twitching at the plate and in the field.

    Our rotation is a joke.

    Our pen will be overworked.

    There is reason for concern. Just because the Cards and Dodgers can't take advantage of our weakness doesn't mean the Tigers won't. They will. They also won't make the stupid defensive mistakes the Dodgers made.

    I'm not saying the Mets can't win, but I have grave doubts.

    Emad

    4:37 PM

     
    Blogger mr. met said...

    Full strength...or a lot of luck. The are still alive.

    Beltran? You mean El Tigre Del Noche? He will come up big.

    Wright is still a doubles hitter, and he's still hitting for average. I'll take that over shrinking to nothing.

    Floyd = Kirk Gibson

    Green does stink...

    Valentin is weak, but A Hern will be in there saving runs soon enough.

    Reyes has still contributed without hitting.

    The rotation is silly, but they are serviceable. I know that isn't ideal, but c'mon. They got the Mets 97 wins. They can do this.

    The pen will be over worked, but they need to step up. Honestly this rides on their arms and luckily there are seven capable ones.

    Doubt away man, it's worked so far for us, I'll be optimistic enough for the both of us.

    4:52 PM

     
    Anonymous The Brooklyn Bum said...

    Ok, this is what the series comes down to:

    Will the Mets be the Mets?

    It has nothing to do with what the Cards bring to the table. If the Mets are the Mets, we win. If we hit the ball, we win. If the bullpen is solid we win. If the starters keep us in the game, we win.

    It's really that simple.

    LETS GO METS

    4:54 PM

     
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    *Doubt away man, it's worked so far for us*
    Shhh! You wanna lose?

    Emad

    5:16 PM

     
    Anonymous benny said...

    Appearently I worked my magic a day early. I'm going to the game afterall. Amazing what can happen in a matter of 5 minutes. I'm fucking excited and atleast this time I didn't have to wait the WHOLE FREAKIN' DAY like my last game, lol.

    Emad your one pessimistic dude. Don't worry I'll be positive enough for both of us ;)

    LETS FUCKING GO METS!!!

    5:59 PM

     
    Blogger Kenny said...

    I like Emad's reverse mojo. You don't change what is working.

    6:36 PM

     
    Anonymous DG said...

    One at bat by Cliffy and he's gone. Just hard to believe he'll be back this series...

    9:06 PM

     
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I love Cliff, but his inclusion on the roster was just plain stupid. Too big of a risk when there's a better than 50% chance he's not gonna be able to play through his injury. We could have had an abled bodied talented kid in Milledge on the roster as a back up outfielder or right-handed pinch hitter.

    Do the Mets hate Milledge that much?

    9:23 PM

     
    Anonymous Scott said...

    Hans Moleman with the HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE dingger!!!!!!!


    The look on Weavers face; "look Lees, you can actually see the point where his heart broke."

    11:08 PM

     
    Anonymous benny said...

    I lost my voice

    2:43 AM

     
    Anonymous Sidd Finch said...

    Me too. Those 2 double plays were HUGE, and if not for the scoreboard, the homer would not have landed yet.

    11:04 AM

     

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