F-Mart!
After making a mortal enemy in myself, Keith Law is trying to kiss an make up. He goes over his top 25 prospects and talks about a few Mets favorably.
6. Fernando Martinez, CF, Mets
Martinez doesn't look or carry himself like a teenager, and he had no trouble against Double-A and Triple-A pitchers in the Arizona Fall League. A plus glove in center, as well.
Six? That's tasty. Really tasty. As great as that is, Law does not stop there.
9. Andrew McCutchen, CF, Pirates
Jumped two levels to Double-A at age 19 and didn't miss a beat. Legit center fielder who can fly, already hitting for plus power and controlling the strike zone, too. He and Martinez are the two early leaders for the No. 1 spot next winter.
I'm not sure Martinez can overtake McCutchen, but it will be interesting to see if he can. If Martinez is healthy, he certainly will make a push to, but McCutchen will be doing it a higher level. Of course if you want to factor in that Martinez is two years younger, you could certainly make a case for Martinez being the better prospect, but Andrew is as good as they come. The Pirates fans should be very excited for a future outfield of Bay, Nady, and McCutchen. Not that Nady is anything tremendous, but given the star power of the other two, he will compliment them just fine. Also, if some of the Pirates young arms start panning out (which in itself is a big problem as there seems to be a major breakdown somewhere in their coaching of young pitchers because they have looked clueless with all of those solid arms) and with the addition of LaRoche, there might actually be light at the end of Pittsburgh's tunnel. Back to the Mets...
Phil Humber, RHP, and Mike Pelfrey, RHP, Mets
Pelfrey misses the cut until he has a breaking ball he can really use, while Humber's continued arm troubles (he was shut down again in the AFL, supposedly as a precautionary measure) keep him off the list.
Sweetness. As we have all heard, the rumor is that Pelfrey's slider is much better than his curveball so hopefully that is taken care of and can we stop with the Humber and his continued arm trouble nonsense? I mean, the guy had a clean bill of health coming out of college and that was partially the reason why the Mets drafted him. Prior to his Tommy John surgery, he was fine and since coming back he has been effective. If a guy has not pitched in a year, it is understandable that he would have arm soreness and frankly it was surprising that the Mets would even let him pitch in the Arizona Fall League given what he just went through.
Given the fact that Lastings Milledge is ineligible to be a true prospect anymore, he is not on the list. However, he’s still a rookie in my heart and gives the Mets four top 50 talents that are just about ready to go. When it comes to compliments about players within my favorite organization, I'll take them no matter who they are from.
“We had a much better atmosphere, good coffee. Unfortunately, they ran around half-naked and we didn’t,” said Cambroto, who finally threw in the towel last spring and sold his business to his rival, the operator of six Cowgirls Espresso stands in the Seattle suburbs.
While not quite a hostile takeover (nothing involving boobs could be considered hostile), I sure hope John Cambroto learned a valuable lesson about business and keeps up with the market trends in his next business venture. I can only hope that this trend makes its way East.
The new Dice-K? Yu Darvish looks like he has solid stuff, but he is looooong way from joining the bigs as he has only played two years professionaly and is 20 years old. Japan probably does not like being a farm system for the bigs too much, but there does not seem to be anyway to stem the exodus of their biggest and brightest. Bobby V's idea of a Japanese division of the big leagues would certainly help, but that has bigger benefits for Japan than the US. Besides, that idea has way too many issues with the largest issue being logistics.
Some food for thought though, I truly wonder what a Japanese team compromised solely of Japanese players with Johima, Ichrio, the real Matsui, Iguchi, D-Mat, and other top flight players could do. Ultimately, I do think their pitching and lack of power would be their downfall, but they should be very competitive.
J.P. Ricciardi says he was playing around on his laptop computer the other day. Saw Victor Zambrano's name. Saw he was available.
"I didn't know what his status was, to be honest," the Toronto Blue Jays general manager said Wednesday, after signing Zambrano to a minor league contract that will pay the 31-year-old righthander a base salary of $500,000 (all figures U.S.), with various incentives built both around starts and relief appearances.
Isn't that supposed to be his job? Or at least someone's job in the organization to let him know the availability of a guy who had success in the AL East before?
500 Home Run guys: There is a chance that five players will join the 500-Home Run Club this year, which would be a first. Frank Thomas is 13 away. Jim Thome is 28 away. Manny Ramirez is 30 away. Alex Rodriguez is 36 away. Gary Sheffield needs 45. This used to be an exclusive little club. Now it's up to 20. Soon, the 20 will become 25. In another 15 years, there are going to be 35. Get used to the growth.
Frankly, McGwire's power numbers are not awe inspiring when you take into account the time they came in. Hitting 500+ homers means little anymore when talking about getting into the Hall of Fame. If you plan to retire and have 500 and something homers while not factoring in on defense, you better have been a Manny Ramirez-type hitter who did it all and was an all around masher and McGwire just does not fit that bill. That's not to say he wasn't a fearsome hitter and one of the better big leaguers of his day, but he just is not a Hall of Famer. You cannot do anything about the guys that got into the Hall of Fame and do not really deserve to be there, but you can certainly rectify this going forward and not letting Mark McGwire in would be a step in the right direction.
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41 Comments:
Glad to see you post again. We all thought you had gone off to Latvia. As you can probably tell from the last comment stream, the rank and file wants to know if there is any protection from the spammers, or is this basically a non-issue for you? Personally, I've seen too many blogs go blank after getting fed up, and we want our Metropolitans!
If F-Mart makes it to Blinghamton this summer, I'm driving down to see him while I'm in the States. He's clearly the keeper out of the hot three. My guess is that two will start next to Beltran, but who wins spot number three?
9:18 AM
Enjoy the trip to Denver. One of my favorite places in Denver is Wynkoop Brew Pub. They brew their own beer there, and often have special beers that are really cool. They also have an improvisational theatre downstairs, and a pretty cool pool hall upstairs. Another place that I didn't get a chance to go to is the Buckhorn Exchange, Denver's oldest steak house, and on register of historic places.
I hope F-Mart makes it to Binghamton this summer, because I live about a mile from the New Britain Rock Cats ballpark, and will be there to see him play.
9:46 AM
Well….I don’t particularly care about the spammers. I can do the old word verification gag, but if I’m reading the comments, I can usually just delete them. I can make people sign in, but I’m not sure that’s going to fly with the general populous. The only real issues is when I’m not around the spammers are free to go out of control. That is not good for anyone.
I second that. I’ll be going to Binghamton to see F-Mart as well.
Sidd…I will take that information and store it in my brain if I have any time. I’m not sure I will have any time as I’ll be in the Evergreen area from Friday to Monday and in Denver Monday night to Wednesday afternoon.
9:54 AM
I've deleted the hated spammers.
10:02 AM
Great blog Mike. Long time reader, I dont think I've posted too much though. It made my friday morning seeing an update!
Two catchers in the mets organization to keep an eye on in 2007 are Yasmil Bucce and Mike Nickeas. While neither is as sexy a prospect as Pena, there's a chance we may have something there with one of 'em!
11:53 AM
Keith Law is wierd. I understand he had a top position with the Blue Jays baseball operations but sometimes he says retarded things. He's very inconsistant. Sometimes he says very good and intelligent things, the others time I'm left scratching my heads, wondering how he got a job like he did.
I must admit, I didn't like McCutchen in the draft in 05. He's proven me wrong. Very nice. The Pirates could have a nice 5 tool talent out there.
I know Darvish is only 20 and has like what? 6 years until he's a free agent and that won't be until 2012 earliest and in fact, might not even happen at all but I just wanted to fill the void that Dice-K left when he finally went to the MLB. We need a new obsession and I choose Darvish.
Ricciardi was playing on his laptop and found Zambrano? What the fuck was he doing? Searching for Kazmir on baseball-reference.com and saw he was traded for Zambrano and figured he "should" be a good pitcher?
That's just a bizarre thing for J.P. to say, haha.
Are these guys Hall of Famers?
Frank Thomas? I dunno, I missed the part in his career where he was dominant. I can't judge.
Jim Thome? Nice guy, big bat, but nope, not a HoF.
Manny? Beast, yes.
A-Rod? yes.
Sheffield? Nope. Although he's in the tier JUST below of truley dominant.
I see your starting to label your posts... very nice. Labels are the cool things to do now, i see.
Dep, I've actually never heard of Bucce and I'd like to think I know the deal about the Mets farm system. Damn I'm slackin'. What's the deal with him?
Also, I can reall see Omar signing Pudge if his option is declined... I wouldn't mind it, although his offense is slipping, he's STILL the best defensive catcher in the MLB.
12:09 PM
ok, here's what i know about Bucce. he has very limited at-bats and the mets are hoping his offensive game comes around. that said, his defensive abilities are supposed to be out of this world.
the mets hid Bucce in AAA during the offseason to help protect him in the Rule V draft, so that should speak a little to what the mets think of him.
here's a scouting report from last year i believe:
Scouting Report on Yasmil Bucce
Vital Statistics:
Name: Yasmil Bucce
Position: Catcher
DOB: August 29, 1984
Height: 6’1”
Weight: 180
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Batting and Power. Bucce is extremely patient and selective at the plate. He has had success, granted in limited at-bats, in the United States thus far because he’s willing to sit on his pitch and he puts the ball in play. He has very good gap power with occasional home run power, the type of batter that collects a lot of doubles and is good in situational hitting.
ETA. 2009. Even with just barely 100 at-bats in the United States under his belt, Bucce should fly through the farm system, his defensive game is that special. It will be hard to protect him in future Rule 5 Drafts so the Mets will push him along as quickly as possible. He should begin the 2007 season with the Savannah Sand Gnats, but don’t be surprised if he begins the year in St. Lucie. He’ll probably just need two full minor league seasons before getting his shot in the big leagues.
12:29 PM
Thanks dep…good to have you chiming in on my post of nothingness. I promise more substance in the coming weeks. I just need to start drinking more beer at home and write. That usually gets my juices flowing.
I know nothing about those guys, but I know the Mets have been drafting catchers in droves to try and fill in the gaps. Their catching prospects have simply been lackluster. It would be nice to see someone emerge from nowhere, but it still looks like Paullie Ballgame will be needed for another two years. I believe Bucce and Nickeas were just drafted last year, right?
Benny…I’m with you. He’s said some wacky stuff about the Mets and he’s obviously smart working for the Blue Jays and Stats Inc…but he leaves me wondering what is going through his head sometimes. I think he lets personnel bias interfere with reason.
I think McCutchen has outperformed everyone’s expectations. Maybin was supposed to be the stud CFer with Bruce gaining ground, but McCutchen has quickly asserted himself as they man out there. Impressive stuff.
I think Darvish as seven years…six if they post him. At least Daisuke was close to becoming a big leaguer, but this guy? Very far away.
Frank Thomas? Yes. Unequivocally one of the most deadly offensive powers I’ve seen in my era of watching ball. All around masher and WAAAAY better offensively than Big Mac.
Jim Thome? Not for me he isn’t. He’s borderline with McGwire, but ultimately we’ll see how long he is mashing for.
Manny? Yes. First ballot. One of the best run producers of all time.
A-Rod? I hate him, but of course.
Sheffield? Nope. In the same arena as Thome or McGwire, but closer for me. We’ll really need to see where he ends up, but for now, I’m saying no.
As for my label posting, Blogger just let me switch over to the new one so that was exciting.
Pudge over Ballgame? Not for me. Better defense…but those intangibles!
12:44 PM
Great stuff on Yasmil...sounds pretty good to me. In the end, it still looks like LoDuca needs to be back. LoDuca will be able to give everyone flexibility and they will start working Yasmil in for '09 with LoDuca if he comes along. I just do not see how they can really get around not bringing him back though it's not optimal.
12:47 PM
lol mike, beer makes everything better!!!
completely agree on bringing PLD back, the only FA name next year that even slighly interests me is Michael Barrett, but i havent seen him play enough to know what he's all about.
I'm not sure when we drafted Bucce and Nickeas. I dont think both were last year, but not 100% sure. I know Mickeas missed a whole year with injury or something like that, I'll look into it and report back.
one guy i forgot is this australian catcher we have too. supposedly a huge power prospect.
I think his name is Patrick Maat (not sure on the first name). I'll try and get some info on him too.
1:00 PM
Losing Flores was a mistake that the Mets may regret by having to overpay, but they knew the risks when they took them. Bucce strikes me as old for a guy about the start the season with Savanah's Swellicious Gnats. We'll see what happens. As for Nickeas, I read somewhere that he had backup written all over him (apparently a drunken foray in a tattoo parlor).
I rarely comment on Yankee issues, and for good reason, but does anyone else find the Yankees treatment of Bernie Williams kind of odd? The guy has played 16 years with the same team, and yet they've really not been frank with him regarding how they see the rest of his career playing out. He had a decent year last year, yet their treatment of him seems to lack decency.
Then again, the Mets were somewhat similar in their treatment of Piazza though they did make something in the direction of an official pronouncement on his future before the end of 2005. (Big video sendoff = new contract somewhere else!)
As for not posting much of substance, Mike, there really hasn't been that much out there. We need pitcher and catchers to add some momentum at this time of year.
1:01 PM
Nickeas came in the FatBoy Diaz (aka "The Other Victor") trade. He was not drafted by the Mets.
1:03 PM
I like the idea of LoDuca more than anyone other marginal guy (though I think Barrett is solid, but as we learned this year when one guy is out there, it’s a big swing an a miss if you do not get him) and I do not think he will cost that much. Probably $6 million a year.
Maat is young too. I think he is a year or two just removed from high school.
DG, they should tell him he’s done as a Yankee. They need to move on and they do not need him. They had good times together and he won a whole lot, but what does he expect them to do? Just go graciously. It’s time to move on. The Yankees are being put in a tough spot. I don’t think it lacks decency because they really have no choice in the matter. They’ve done him favors by bringing him back two years in a row and carrying Giambi as the DH is just making it prohibitive to carry around Bernie another year as a favor.
Ah..the Victor Diaz deal. That one was a snoozer...maybe we'll get use out of some Victor yet.
1:39 PM
Franco (NYC): You are nuts about Giada! She pronounces italian words correctly, not like italian americans who drop the last vowel off of anything (she does have a big head though)... Anyway, Can Oliver perez get anywhere near his numbers he had when he was nasty in Pittsburgh?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:24 PM ET ) Agreed on the final-vowel thing - a relative of my wife's who shall not be named refers to locatelli as "lugaTELL" - but I swear I heard Giada call spaghetti "spa-GHEE-tee." I smacked my television after that. And I wouldn't give up on Perez - there's more in that arm than you saw in '06.
Keith just buttering us up more. I'm sure Coop will like that one. She's been quite adamant that Perez is going to throw a no-no and win 30 games or something like that. I'll settle for 4.50 ERA and a 12 wins and strides forward towards consistency. Either way, I like him a lot and he shouldn't be underestimated. That slider is flat out nasty and that back door curveball is swellicious.
2:05 PM
Bucce is old for the level he's at, no doubt.
I seem to remember that he's a product of the Mets Venezuelan Instructional Camp/League, so maybe that has something to do with him being old.
I would love to sign Paulie to a 1-year deal, but it seems like we'll need somebody for 2 yrs (at least) anyway, so maybe we should bite the bullet and get it done.
Who knows, I guess the mets are gonna make PLD earn it. So having lame duck managers is bad, what about lame duck catchers? LOL
2:16 PM
DG, its a loooong ass season. It's 162 game splayed in about 180 days or so. I really see Flores going back to the Mets at some point. It's hard to to stay on the roster that long. Especially for a guy that hasn't even had 1 AB above Single A.
The Yankees in the Bernie situation is not odd at all. He doesn't fit into thier plans and they're acting like it. The Yankees have no room on the roster, at all. There is no competition in spring training... at all. THe roles and spots are already decided and they're acting that way towards Bernie.
Bernie just needs to learn how to take a hint.
I'm still mad about the 2004 draft when the Mets chose a whack attack like Aaron Hathaway instead of Angel Salome. I know he's only been in A ball and probably gonna begin the year in High A ball but he's been more productive that Hathaway has.
2:19 PM
I actually see BETTER than a 4.50 ERA. I can see an ERA just under 3. Which would be solid.
I'm super excited about Oliver Perez. Maybe its unfair but shit, the man is naaaaaaaaasty.
Ricky P and the rest of the Mets team are gonna give him confidence. And confidence can go a long way.
2:21 PM
The nationals can easily carry 3 catchers the entire year, enabling Flores to stay there.
they have already publicly stated they dont expect to compete in 2007, so I really dont see why they would let him return to us. they knew the deal when they took him and they know he's nowhere near ready.
I'm very pessimistic about the chances he is returned to us, i think he's a goner, I hope I'm worng though.
the real loser in the whole deal is Flores, his development is going to be royally screwed up and sitting on an ML bench for an entire year when he should be in AA (at most) playing every day is not going to help him one bit.
2:24 PM
I'm putting a $100 on Ollie P to win the NL Cy Young this year.
I think I can get almost 1000-1 odds right now, and the only thing better than him actually winning the award would be me getting $100,000 when he does it ;)
2:25 PM
Dep….I’m not a big believer that lame duck anything is bad. It gives them something to pay for and gives the team more substance to base their opinion on. That being said, it could end up costing you. Not extending PLB if he repeats ’06 means bigger bucks. What is the more important? Making sure he’s healthy enough and not in decline or trying to get yourself a bargain. Personally I think he’ll be less a player, but given the situation, he’ll be good enough for another three years. I’m behind extending him. GOODWILL AND RAISES FOR EVERYONE!
Benny…no way he comes back. The Nationals are the worst team in the bigs. They could have five roster spots taken up by guys who will not play and it won’t matter.
At least Salome is still playing….sounds like a good enough reason to have drafted him.
RE: Perez…I’m not saying it would totally surprise me if Ollie just laid his mack down in the big apple, but he has work to do. He’s pretty far removed from ’04 and I’m thinking baby steps. It really depends on if Professor Rick can work his magic quick enough. With Pedro out, he is my favorite pitcher to watch bar none.
Dep 100% on and I’ve said that before. Young catchers need to get their work in and he might as well be coming back from an injury and rehabbing. He’s missing a ton of valuable time. Yes, the Nationals like him, but this was far from a great move for them. Really a head scratcher and why you cannot fault the Mets for not protecting him. I mean who has ever done something like this before? The Nationals are a mess and not trading Soriano is the biggest joke I’ve ever seen.
I'm putting a $100 on Ollie P to win the NL Cy Young this year.
Sheer brilliance. There are plenty of fans who drop a hundred or so on their team in the post season when the odds are not favorable. What can you lose?
2:47 PM
Wait, Hathaway isn't playing anymore? He retired/quit?
Last I remember he was a 25 year old in low A ball.
2:52 PM
Hmm...someone retired. Maybe not Hathaway, but someone of that ilk. Anyone out there?
3:18 PM
Hathaway's gone. Didn't like how the Mets treated him and bolted. I think he's on the restricted list or something. You could probably find the whole story by googling.
My point with Bernie is that it shouldn't have to be a hint. The guy has played 16 years with one team, and hanging it up as a ballplayer is no easy shakes - an end of a time in his life. You make it clear and be clean about it. They're offering a minor league deal because they weren't able to do that when they should have. I agree on the business points.
Flores is gone, one fake injury and rehab away from not having his whole career lost by a bad parry by the Mets. The Nats will hold on to him, and since catchers have the longest minor (and major) league shelf life this side of loogies, he makes major league minimum salary for a year then goes back to AA next year.
I got OP at 3.60 - 3.75 ERA which should translate to wins. How many I'm not willing to venture as injuries to that vaunted offense could always have its effect.
Surprised in a way that Gammons doesn't chuck one less than stellar but equally important name in his article on the starters who will make the difference between playoffs or bust. Names not chi chi enough frankly, and maybe he thinks the Mets are there regardless, but Johnny Maine makes 30 starts and the Mets are having a very good season. Again as with OP, it's not about having the sub 3.00 ERA, 4.00 - 4.20 and the Mets are chillin.
6:29 PM
Dep and Benny - you are my two heroes. Mike and everyone here knows that I *heart* Oh-Pea. I've been predicting a CY year for him this year and he will be a 20-game winner. I will also say it right here -- he will pitch the first met no-hitter and it will be in Shea. Mark my words. Benny, the man's "shit" isn't just nasty - his shit is electrifying. He pitches and it's like lightning bolts are shooting out of his ass.
I'm starting to get all horny about spring training now. OK, Mike, keep your words to yourself LOL
I am also starting a new blog -- if you want to check out the prototype, go to
mysummerfamily.blogspot.com
I have the dedication there, but comments aren't active yet. Maybe I'll do that now...I'm not in the mood to deal with it. I'm already procrastinating enough with school. I should be up and running by Opening Day. I won't have much structure, probably just ranting and raving like I normally do.
10:27 PM
I think the Mets should have been more dissapointed/mad with the way Hathaway treated THEM with his shitty ass production as a 25 year old in low A ball.
3:24 AM
I just want to be cool and make a Super Bowl prediction.
Bears beat the Colts.
Score? shit, umm. 23-17
12:07 PM
Is it Super Bowl Sunday? Yawn. Well, that at least means the real sport is on the way.
5:57 PM
Darvish has a nice slider, but his fastball ain't MLB quality yet. I saw him pump a couple in at 92mph, but most were around 87.
1:45 PM
He's 20... so we have to wait like 6 or 7 years to really give a shit. So he's young enough to improve.
But you are right, his fastball looks a little "flat".
Now that the damn football business is out of the way. Time for some fuckin' baseball!!!
3:07 PM
You got it, Benny!
And may I add the Peyton Manning is an incredible drip?
9:12 AM
with williams hurt, what do you all think about humber in long relief?
9:32 AM
coop, the purpose of a blog is to write something! :)
12:52 PM
Ummmm....Mets are gonna sign Chan Ho Park. This is not a joke. But oh how I wish it were ):
- Nokes
8:30 AM
The only interesting thing about Park is his middle name.
10:04 AM
this could be boom or bust. its still another body though. i just cant believe its $3 mill
10:39 AM
I heard that part of the deal is he will have to change his name from Chan Ho Park to Citi Field.
I'm surprised no one has commented about Prince and his silhouette at the SB halftime show.
12:56 PM
the deal with CHP is for $600K not $3M.
$2.4M in add'l incentives for IP
1:36 PM
Did anyone catch the Mets Hot Stove Report on Monday? They were showing the new stadium. It has really moved along.
Park is not a bad option. If he pitches well then $3mil will seem really cheap.
6:26 PM
Any idea who gets dropped from the 40 man? I say Adkins.
3:37 PM
Ha ha ha Sidd Finch, but I have written something! :-) Comments are enabled and everything. I won't be back there till around Opening Day but my opening post says that.
11:48 PM
hey I wanted to mention to you DiceK lovers that the NYTimes has an awe inspiring story in Sundays sports section. 250 pitches AND he slid into home in the 11th inning! Ok now Im sold--the Mets should try to get that guy!
Also, and i am dead serious, can someone tell me what is going on in the comments section of the jose valentin experience. Are family and friends using it to communicate? I am at a loss.
5:32 PM
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