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Tuesday, August 15, 2006

It Ain't Easy Being Green

The Mets have in interest in acquiring Shawn Green and it really is not a bad idea. First and foremost is Cliff Floyd's inability to stay healthy. They simply cannot chance heading into the playoffs with an amalgamation of Endy Chavez, Lastings Milledge, or Michael Tucker starting in the outfield. It especially gets dicey if you add in the possibility of a DH and you have a team that is significantly weaker than it's possible American League opponents.

Second, the Mets are short one outfielder in 2007 and it is becoming clearer by the day Cliff Floyd is not a great option even on a one year deal. Acquiring Shawn Green gives them options. Should they choose to hold onto Lastings Milledge and let him blossom into the player a lot of people think he can be, it might not make sense for the Mets to chase a high priced outfield option that would lock up an outfield spot for years to come with Fernando Martinez and Carlos Gomez on the horizon. Conversely, if they choose to deal Milledge for pitching, they would need to find two outfielders instead of one to plug up a hole.

There also is the matter of Green's contract, which includes a limited no-trade provision and guarantees him a 2007 salary of $9.5 million and has a $2 million buyout for the following season. The Mets "don't see Green as an $11 million player," the person said. They would want the D-Backs to assume some responsibility for the remaining obligation. Moreover, Green is understood to have an aversion to playing in New York.

Of course, it boils down to money. Though the Mets have plenty of it, they are expected to be a big player for some top notch starting pitching and Omar will assuredly be chasing some bullpen arms. Green would cost them $9.5 million in 2007 with a $2 million buyout for the following season. Green's salary might impact the way they approach the off season especially if they pick up Tom Glavine's contract. Xavier Nady and Lastings Milledge provided some salary relief at the corners and that is no longer a luxury for Omar. Let's not forget, the Mets still need to plug second base with an able body.

Will the Diamondbacks throw in some cash? Absolutely. With Chris Young on the way in 2007, Carlos Quentin already finding it hard to get playing time between Luis Gonzalez and Shawn Green, Eric Byrnes having one more arbitration year, and the money they still save after throwing in a few million, it makes sense to dish him off and get him off the books. While Shawn Green might not like the East Coast, he still has not won a championship and the Mets give him a great chance to do that. Are his numbers down while hitting in a hitter's park? Yes, but he still a decent hitter. He has a .281/.345/.425 line and will get close to 50 extra base hits. His home/away splits are not that drastic and he adds a professional bat into a very good lineup. If the Mets can get away with that deal while giving up a nominal prospect or two, it is a brainer. It has to be done.

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  • Yesterday’s game was one of those games in which you are done watching after the first. Simply brutal. After Delgado lost the bat twice and hit Hamels once in the leg, you had a feeling that the Mets were going to have trouble getting anything going against Cole. Turned out they had lots of trouble. Hamels was dealing and showed us all first hand why Met fans should not look forward to seeing him in the NL East for years to come. Rough game for Pedro and a rough game for the Mets as he is now listed day to day after feeling a twinge in his right calf. Hopefully the Mets will put up a strong showing as my friends and I are heading down to Philly to see The Duque (2.57 ERA in his last three starts) take on Rady Wolf (frumpy white guy).

    If I drive all the way down there to see them get lit up, I will not be a happy guy. Although, pulled pork and Geno's cheesesteaks are a nice consolation prize.

  • The understatement of the year goes too.......

    Tom Glavine! Congratulations Tom, you win nothing. I'd give you my self respect, but I lost that long time ago.

    "I think it's fair to say his hitting has been moderately surprising because of last year," Tom Glavine said.

    Moderately surprising? It would have been less surprising to find out Hillary Clinton is a post-op transexual than to see Valentin hit the way he has. Actually, I don't think I would be too surprised at all to find that out about Hillary.

  • I love it.

    It takes a lot to out-Yankee the Yanks, but after two big signings last week (Jose Reyes and David Wright) and a juicy back-page gambling and teenage sex-kitten scandal (oh, Paul Lo Duca), the Mets are the talk of the town. Remember when a juicy Mets story was questioning Mike Piazza's sexuality? Welcome to the new Queens Zoo.

    "Out-Yankee the Yankees" is pure genius.

  • Marty Noble states his case for Keith Hernandez's number to be retired.

    Hernandez was the most critical figure in the Mets' run of success from 1984 through 1989 -- all first or second-place finishes. He changed the team's sense of self in 1983 when the Mets acquired him from the Cardinals and led the National League in MVP points -- without winning the award -- from '84 through '88.

    All good points Marty, but I can't do it.

  • Oliver Perez didn't get the win, but he turned in a solid performance. Perez went six innings and gave up five hits, one run on one homerun, and one walk while striking out seven. Edgardo Alfonso went 2 for 4 with his second homerun as a Tide.

    Fernando Martinez went 1 for 4 with a run scored and an RBI as Mike Carp went 2 for 3 with two RBIs in St. Lucie's loss.

    Knuckle-baller Zac Clements was a hard luck loser on Sunday as he went six innings and gave up five hits, one earned run, and two walks while striking out four.

    Brahiam Maldonado continues to hit well for the K-Mets and went 1 for 3 with his fifth homer and a walk in Kingsport's 3-1 win.

  • Henry Owens will be representing the best country in the world in the Olympic qualifier.

    "At first, I was reluctant to say yes right away," Owens said Monday night. "At the time (he was asked), we had a nice winning streak and obviously we're contending for the playoffs, and I feel obligated to this team.

    Do us proud Henry.

  • Carlos Delgado is hurting.

  • Yes, we already went over this, but it sounds better the second time after it set in.

    Here are some interesting accolades to consider regarding Jose Reyes: Baseball America polled MLB managers and the result had Reyes ranked as the most exciting player in the National League, the fastest baserunner, the best baserunner, the second-best bunter and the second-best defensive shortstop, trailing Omar Vizquel.

    Credit the San Francisco Chronicle for crunching these numbers: If Reyes steals one more base and lifts his average to .300 (he was at .295 entering Monday's game), he would finish with better than 50 stolen bases, 20 doubles, 15 triples, 10 homers and a .300 average -- making him only the third player in history to do that, joining Honus Wagner (1908) and Willie McGee (1985).

    Excuse me while I go grab some tissues and some lotion.

  • No twenty game winners? I would have not believed it a quarter of the way through the season, but now? It might happen.

    It's up to you and a small handful of others to get on a roll -- pronto -- or the major leagues will go without a 20-game winner this season.

    That hasn't happened since . . . um . . . ever. In every non-strike season since the Modern Era began in 1900, at least one pitcher has reached the 20-win plateau.

    But entering play tonight, smack in the middle of August, no one had even reached victory No. 15.

    It doesn't take 20-20 vision to see that the streak is in trouble.

    ``It's too early to start making projections like that,'' said the A's Barry Zito, a 23-game winner in 2002. ``But for the pitchers who have a chance, it's going to come down to run support.''

    Glavine looked like a sure fire 20-game winner early on in the season, but that is not happening anymore.

    Anonymous jake said...

    i think we should sign soriano. if not, then carlos lee. i don't disagree about getting green, but i don't really care.

    is there some reason not to sign soriano? i used to think he was a punk ass bitch, but now it seems obvious he has totally redeemed himself. am i wrong?

    11:46 AM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Sori will cost $15 mill...Pitching is a priortiy. Signing Sori might preclude them from upgrading their rotation.

    Green is at least one and done.

    12:21 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    Me, personally I would prefer Preston Wilson but only because there's no commitment to him beyond this year.
    I'm not a big fan of extra commitment.
    But whatever, Shawn Green isn't tooo bad. I just hope it doesn't hold the Mets back from signing somebody.

    I can't comment about Kieth cause well, i wasn't around so I don't know the type of player he is. In fact, NOW is when some of the players I even recognize are showing up on the ballot. But I still don't know enough abotu thier careers.
    In about 5 years I'd be able to whine, bitch, and complain about the selections into the HOF.

    And jake, the only reason I don't like Soriano is because well, i just don't like him and he'd take 5 years to get.
    And I've just never liked him as a baseball player.
    Carlos Lee's body is not the fit to hand a 4 year deal to. He's actually a good and smart base runner and steals a good ammout of abses for as guy his size but the man is just FAT. God forbid he gets more money to spend on food.

    12:28 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Wilson helps no one. I'll take Green as a player over Wilson right now. The Mets might have to take a one year hit to ensure they are not in a bad situation.

    I'm with Benny. Lee will probably break down. He needs to be back in the AL DHing and playing LF. He just keeps getting larger too.

    12:31 PM

    Blogger Toasty Joe said...

    i used to think he was a punk ass bitch, but now it seems obvious he has totally redeemed himself. am i wrong?

    This sentence reminded me of one of my favorite move lines:

    "Just when I thought you couldn't possibly get any dumber, you go and do something like this....and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!"

    12:37 PM

    Blogger Danny said...

    Toasty, great Dumb and Dumber line...

    As for Sori, the dude can mash, nobody denies that. But he is also going to swing for the fences every time, and when he doesn't hit homeruns, like say in the 8th inning against the Mets on Sunday, he won't run down the line hard to beat out what should have been an infield hit. I hate guys that don't play hard all the time, especially supremely talented ones like Soriano. Plus he will come at a very heavy price.

    Carlos Lee has 14 stolen bases this year and is only 30. But I would not want him longer than 3 years. He is like a righthanded Cliff Floyd. He will cost too much and have too many years.

    I want Sheffield personally. He would be a great one year investment. Dude can still rake. And we buy another year to see how good Gomez and Milledge are. Plus, you could hand Milledge the other corner OF position, and not care as much about his production, but more about his development. This gives Gomez another year to see how good he is. Anf then there is always Fernando quickly coming down the pipeline...

    12:46 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    I think it takes more than 1 year to get Sheffield to sign.
    I think he wants to stay as a Yankee. He's a crazy, stubborn, psyhopath of a man. And I love it.
    He'd be a perfect role model to Mileldge in my opinion.
    He'll teach Milledge to RIGHT way to be a cocky, psychotic asshole.

    1:02 PM

    Anonymous jake said...

    a perfect role model...too funny...but screw sheffield, he has not redeemed himself.

    ok, i see that pitching is a priority. but if not green, who will be our third outfielder. i think we'll have to sign someone. maybe not top dollar like soriana or lee, but who does that leave us?

    yes, toasty, i was, as i almost always am, thinking of dumb and dumber. but you are only one for two. 'am i wrong?' is another top movie reference. it's too obvious for me to point out, but i'm sure someone else will...

    1:15 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Sheff for a year works for me too. I know it sounds bad, but he'll have something to prove.

    For the same reason you like him for one year, Green is a solid investment. He's one and done and Gomez can fit right in in 2008.

    I like Dye, but I'm hesitant to hand out any long term contracts since the Mets seem to be rich in that arena in the minors. If they can do pitching and a Dye-type guy, great.

    I do like Lee too, but he'll be looking to cash in big time. He won't settle for three years, which is the only thing that makes sense. He will break down.

    2:28 PM

    Anonymous Scott said...

    Yes pitching should be a top priority but we sure need a big outfielder to cement the lineup too. What if Valentin doesnt hit next year like he is this year? Then pitching around Wright will become commonplace.

    Milledge needs lots of time to get his crap together. Floyd is done. Yeah Lee is fat but damn if he cant hit!!!!

    Fuck Sheffield the arrogant prick.


    2:58 PM

    Anonymous Farva said...

    Nothing says that Lee will break down. HE has been healthy and plays almost every game. If he is out there we gotta grab him.

    2:59 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    You cannot count on Valentin. They need something else. His deal with the devil will eventually expire.

    Sheff is not ex-Yankee. He's a mercinary. Jeter, Williams, Posada, etc. are ex-yankees.

    3:00 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Farva, nothing says he will, but he is huge! and kind of lumbers....I think it will catch up with him. Purely specualtion and I think the AL fits him much better. He kind of looks really ugly in the outfield.

    3:01 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    Scott, SHeffield has been on sooo many different teams he's an ex-everything.
    Does it even matter anymore?
    The man is a whore.

    Carlos Lee is a pretty bad fielder. It's not a matter of him in 2007 cause shit I'd take him for 2007 EASY. It's just that he'll have to be on the team in 2010.

    3:09 PM

    Anonymous rick m said...

    So it was real windy yesterday, and while I was walking around Manhattan I saw no fewer than three women whose skirts blew up around their waist. Cool, right? Only they were all old and jiggly. What bizzare corollary of Murphy's Law have I discovered?

    13-0. A perfect capper.

    3:35 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Know you follow prospects -- here's an article about Justin Woodall turning down a million from the Mets


    3:52 PM

    Anonymous Farva said...

    Rick you are cursed with meager luck.

    Lee is fat but so is Prince Fielder. Infact I'd say Fielder is a porker but if he were available to us would we grab him? Damn right we would. Yes he is much younger than Lee but Lee is healthy and proves that he is continually. Yes I agree that he has DH stamped on him but if we can get 4 healthy years out of him why not? Who else could we get that will bat better than him for at least 3 of those 4 years? Certainly not Sheffield.

    If Houston just relaes Preston Wilson, should we offer him a minor league contract even if we do trade for Green? He would be insurance in September and a small stint in AAA might turn him around. $350k, why not?

    3:53 PM

    Anonymous Farva said...

    Anyone else having problems with sportspider?

    3:55 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I hope the Mets bring up Perez this weekend. I really have very little interest in seeing Darren Oliver or Brian Bannister take the mound.

    I have these fever dreams of Ollie pumping it at 98 and pounding his glove after his 14th K. For some people, it's Scarlett Johansson. For me? It's Oliver Perez.


    4:01 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Is There Hope For Oliver Perez?


    6:38 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Where did you find it? Interesting read » »

    4:08 AM


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