A blog dedicated to the New York Mets with some other baseball thrown in.

Wednesday, February 06, 2008

"Who gives a [expletive], they just got Johan Santana."

That is pretty much the answer to any problem that you could think of in regards to this deal. The Mets gave up two MLB ready starters in Mulvey and Humber and are left with only Mike Pelfrey as a viable option on the horizon. Outside of that, we are looking at Bobby Parnell, who is more of a reliever in my eyes.

Next year, we know that not one, not two, but three starters will be hitting the free agent market with Maine following after that. Of course Maine has a ways to go, but it bears noting that when his contract expires, the Mets might not have any meaningful prospects ready to step in. Now that Johan is out of the way, some forward thinking should be employed.

Oliver Perez is an enigma to some people. Since 2004, he has put up an ERA+ of 145, 72, 67, and 120 and a k/bb of 2.95, 1.39, 1.50, and 2.20. I could certainly understand why he is considered such, but to me, he is slightly misunderstood. He was not in a great place and the Pirates organization does not exactly have a great track record for grooming young pitchers.

Oliver just seemed like the classic case of guy needing a change of scenery. However, it would be hard to ignore his up and down career. Normally I would say that anyone represented by Boras would not extend with one year left before free agency, but we have a precedent here with a similar case. Carlos Pena was another insanely talented enigma that was represented by Boras and he extended recently.

Perez will have his arbitration meeting later this month and Omar should push for five year deal. $7 million in 2008 and then spread $48 to 52 million over the next four seasons. That is risky because Oliver Perez would not surprise anyone if he threw up a stinker this year, but I think those days are behind him. However, the fact that people consider him volatile might be the best opportunity for the Mets to sign him for a bit more than Carlos Silva signed. Regardless, even if he puts up a 4.20 ERA, he would be worth it and get something close to that on the market which does give the Mets some acceptable downside in regards to his performance.

That move would allow the Mets to pencil in Johan, Ollie, Pelfrey, and Maine through the 2011 season. To me, that sounds just perfect. Waiting until after the 2008 season with Oliver will prove to a risky move because he should be an extremely coveted free agent. Ben Sheets, CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, and John Smoltz might all be out there, but maybe only one or two of them reach. With another solid season from Perez, you have to believe he might be #1 on many team's list with Sheets and Burnett coming with bigger price tags than Ollie and huge health questions, CC pricing out of most team's comfort zone, and Smoltz's age and his likeliness to stay with the Braves.

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  • The Erik Bedard deal is almost done. If he can put up 200 innings, he might be the favorite in Vegas to win the Cy Young. Oakland plays like a pitchers park, Seattle plays like an extreme pitchers park, and Anaheim plays neutral. Of course there is still that bandbox in Arlington, but three out of four ain't bad.

    The Orioles will get a really impressive haul if this goes through and they have put themselves on the right path. If MacPhail was around earlier and was allowed to do what he wanted, they could be on their way to being a rebuilt team rather than just starting their rebuilding process.

    It would be interesting if both Cy Young Award winners from either league were acquired via trade this year. Has that ever happened? Doubtful, but there is certainly a pretty good chance that happens.

  • Luis Castillo divulges some information.

    "I remember the day I got traded, remember Johan. He went to me in the locker room. We talked for 20 minutes. I explained everything. He told me everything, told me he wanted to play with the Mets the day I got traded," said Castillo, who re-signed with the Mets for four years, $25 million. "A week later, I told (Mets GM Omar) Minaya he's a good pitcher, and he likes the Mets. I know he makes a lot of money, but he's great, the best left-handed pitcher, and he'd like to play here with the Mets. I know he makes a lot of money, but I think that's the guy we need."

    Johan would have gone to anyone that would have paid him cash, but I do think he genuinely wanted to be in Queens for a multitude of reasons.

    The Mets hope his 32-year-old knees hold up. In his 49 starts batting second, they averaged 5.51 runs, compared to 4.73 in other games.

    Castillo does not add a ton of defensive or offensive value, but he is does not negatively impact the team. He plays decent defense and gets on base 37% of the time. With the depth the Mets have in the lineup, that is just fine.

  • David Wright chose not to read the Jimmy Rollins guide to shit talking and says what any sugary leader of any squad would say.

    "The team to beat in my eyes is the team that won last year," Wright said. "Philadelphia took care of us last year. They took care of business in the division. Going into this year, we have to take control again of the NL East."

    Of course no one believes for one second he does not think the Mets are the team to beat as Philly needed an improbable comeback just as the Rockies are not playoff favorites as they needed an improbable run, but Wright is not looking to start a ridiculous prediction war.

    With six months of a long season ahead, not much is more annoying than ridiculous claims of who is better. Maybe the Phillies need that type of motivation so that is all well and fine. As for the Mets, it really seems they need some other catalyst. Maybe Wright steps into that role this season. Maybe not. However, I think Pedro and Johan for the entire season will provide that spark that their skipper failed to ignite via himself or through someone else.

  • Bonds, Sosa, and Piazza are not generating much excitement these days. You would think that Sosa would be a better fit than Juan Gonzalez for the Cards, unless the Cards have no intention of using Juan, which begs they question why even sign him in the first place. It seems they would like another bat and Sosa provides that.

    As for Bonds, someone needs to suck it up. The guy has 30 homer potential and gets on base almost 50% of the time. The Padres look like the third best team in the division and could use his bat. Sure, that gives them three left-handed (and old) bats in the outfield, but all three are fragile and will need plenty of days off and Giles and Bonds are not horrible against lefties.
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    Anonymous ossy said...


    bedard should win it in the AL west bc of the parks and the relatively weak offenses.

    are you refering to haren winning the cy young? hahaha

    aj burnett is a waste of $. he'll have a monster contract year and is a bigger tease/ waste of time than soft core porn.

    if the mets can get ollie on the cheap, they should do it. but i doubt they would.

    the yankdeez are gonna have half their payroll come off the books next year. CC in nyc is prolly a sure thing

    i can see a castillo improvement now that he is off that turf in minny. he may not be what he once was, but he does alot of the things necessary to win.

    12:56 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Ossy...I was referring to Johan, but think you knew that. Haren is the second best on his team, which is not a dig at all.

    Ollie and cheap is not exactly what I am looking for. He is still costing $13m per by my plan, but $15m is probably his ceiling on the market if teams start getting desperate. Maybe even a fifth year tacked on.

    I think the Mets can put a fair offer on the table for both sides. Lets see if Omar has the testicular fortitude to attempt to make this happen.

    The Yankees have $80m coming off. Tex and CC seem like a sure thing. If not CC (if he stays with the Indians), then Oliver, Burnett, Smoltz, or Sheets will be next. The caveat is who else is out there, but they will be going hard after someone unless all three of their kids turn out to be Nolan Ryan.

    he may not be what he once was, but he does alot of the things necessary to win.

    I think that perfectly sums up Castillo.

    1:06 PM

    Anonymous benny said...

    I'm copying and psating something I wrote yesterday...
    I was watching the Carribean World Series and I just don't get it. I'm watching Ramon Ortiz kicking ass and taking names. He was throwing 92-94 mph with just really nice movement on his fastball. His fastball looked REAL good. Then his breaking and off-speed pitch was magical. He was amazing. And this observation wasn't even based on how bad the competition he was facing was. You could just see how nasty he was throwing. It blew my mind. And I just don't get it because Ramon Ortiz just sucks. He hasn't been useful in almost 3 or 4 years.
    Some team should offer him a deal because what I saw yesterday was amazing. Maybe a move to the bullpen would suit him well so he can focus one inning at a time and go all out.

    As far as Oliver Perez goes, I truely believe that as long as Rick Petterson is here, he'll remain o nthe right track. He'll always have his disaster starts but... who doesn't?

    If MacPhail was around earlier and was allowed to do what he wanted, they could be on their way to being a rebuilt team rather than just starting their rebuilding process.

    I think this is true if ANY other GM was allowed to do what they wanted to do.

    . "A week later, I told (Mets GM Omar) Minaya he's a good pitcher, and he likes the Mets.

    Oh yeah? A good pitcher! Thanks for the info Luis!

    With your mention of Sosa, I just wanna say that after all this steroids crap, there has NEVER EVER been any link of Sosa to steroids. It's all just a perception that is become truth in everyone's minds.
    At the end of the day maybe he did but maybe he didn't and even though personally I think he did, there's been NOTHING to even closely suggest he did. And... I don't that that's fair that people always put him in the same catagory as Clemens, Bonds, and Palmiero.

    Bonds goes to Seattle or San Diego. I don't think anyone else has the balls to sign him. Although a team like Pittsburgh should sign him... they have nothing else going for them.

    Piazza's lack of interest saddens me! Someone has to sign him.

    1:39 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    RE: Oritz, why not get him in the hands of El Professor Rick?

    Good call on the 'if any gm' was allowed to thing about the Orioles. Duquette did try with Tejada in '06, but that never happened. Good times. Duquette is the guy you hire when you want a puppet, which is too bad for him.

    I think Sosa did it, but I do not care really who did it unless they act like Clemens and make their own websites and reports.

    If they guy can still hit some homers and drive in runs, give him a shot. His OBP is horrible, but he can still help some teams. At least Canseco will have some cohorts in saying baseball blackballs players.

    Bonds in Pittsburge would be run. Good place for him to hit and NOT get pitched around.

    Piazza should keep his bat warm. Someone will give him a shot later in the year after injuries start coming down. Also, Piazza hurt himself by not getting better at 1b. He is practically useless. DH or bust for him with NO ability to play anywhere else. There is just not a big time market for those types of guys.

    1:45 PM

    Blogger Rickey Henderson said...

    Great post title--sums up what Braves and Phillies fans are thinking perfectly.

    Hey, let's get Piazza back and put him in right field. Belle And Sebastian need something new to write a song about.

    2:14 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    im pretty sure benny is a dominican. sosa was juiced.

    2:26 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Sosa was juiced, but who cares? That's all I know. He probably is not now and he has to be able to help someone. There are some dreadful offenses out there and he will not be picky.

    Also, Sosa is a NO GO for the Hall of Fame for me.

    Piazza in right field would be the the #1 off broadway comedy. It would be fun to watch for sure.

    2:31 PM

    Blogger Itsmetsforme said...

    guys guys guys.
    there's an easy way to find out if Sosa juiced. Just ask him, right? Oh wait, no, he doesn't speak english. Well then im out of ideas.

    And Piazza's facial hair magic would not fit in on this new Santana based team, not to mention Mex's. Although Mike IS sporting quite a beard these days.


    4:56 PM

    Anonymous ossy said...

    the santana deal is not as expensive as once thought!


    5:14 PM

    Anonymous benny said...

    itsmetsforme, The only thing I find wrong with that its not fair to hold that against him.
    For stupid baseball press conferences and interviews yeah he could speak broken up english in his heavy accent with a limited baseball vocabulary just fine but when your in a court room a man like that NEEDS a translator. A guy like Sammy Sosa says the wrong thing in the wrong tone and he's done for. I don't blame him for having a translator and I'm sick of people getting on him because of it because the fact is he fucks up in the slightest way and he's in bigger trouble.
    The same reason innocent people get lawyers because they say the wrong thing and they're fucked.
    There's a reason the majority of the innocent people that were in death row that got out were all poor because they couldn't afford a REAL lawyer that gives a shit.

    So the moral of the story is, an immigrant with a heavy accent when he speaks english with a limited vocabulary fit for baseball interviews has the right to a translator.

    5:54 PM

    Anonymous Chris said...

    Just had to drop by to mention that I'm up to my earlobes in a Mets/Yankees starting rotation debate on a Lost forum right now.

    Thought you folks, and few others, would appreciate the delicious irony of that.

    10:09 PM

    Blogger bmc said...

    You all should check out this interview with Willie. Go to around 5:00 when Willie's talking about the collapse.

    Make sure you get a towel first to clean the mess after your head explodes.


    He sucks.

    1:05 AM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    Willie blames everyone but himself for that bad streak.
    I found it pretty funny when he was talking about his experience and he was like "I've been a coach for many years" and all I could think of was... "yeah but you have never been a manager on any level"

    9:38 AM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Chris, that is good stuff. I love it! Baseball (and Lost) is back.

    bmc...I have to check out that link tonight and possibly do some discecting.

    10:20 AM

    Blogger Itsmetsforme said...

    well benny, point taken; i certainly don't begrudge EASL speakers the right to communication esp. when their lives or livelihoods are at stake. But all the same, Sammy's strategy strains credulity. Particularly if he ends up getting caught. And im sure he did what he did based on the advice of some pretty expensive lawyers.

    2:28 PM

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