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Friday, June 06, 2008

I Like Ike

Ike Davis was a solid pick for the Mets giving them the ability to fill whatever need is there be it a corner outfielder or a first baseman. Most likely Ike will stick at first and that is a huge hole for the Mets and they got a good one.

The Mets said they wanted to focus on college bats with their first two picks, and Davis was probably the best hitter left on the board. His pitch recognition is good, and he has a clean swing once he gets it started. He has 30-plus homer power in the big leagues if everything clicks. He's also a good defender with a plus arm at first base.

With the second pick, the Mets went with Reese Havens. If the guy can stick at second, the Mets would pick themselves up a nice offensive second baseman and one that I liked better than Weeks because he can add more with the stick. Best of all, the words 'great' and 'pick' were in the same sentence when Keith Law spoke about this Reese.

This is a great pick for the Mets. He makes all the plays at shortstop because he reads the ball off the bat so well. At the plate he has excellent pitch recognition and hand-eye coordination. If he has to move to second base because of the presence of Jose Reyes at shortstop, he has more than enough bat. Havens has a great approach and instincts, and he should move quickly through the Mets' system.

Brad Holt was not my favorite pick at 33 being that he appears to be a Mike Pelfrey clone with less sink on his fastball, but it is what it is. He throws mostly fastballs and lacks good secondary offerings and will most likely be shifted into the bullpen as a result or be doomed to be jerked around by the Mets organization. I would have preferred Zach Collier, who got picked right after Holt, but the Mets probably felt the need to get an arm rather than pick up another bat.

The key for now is getting them playing this year and starting their pro careers. With arms, you are OK with letting them have the extra time off, but get Havens and Davis moving ASAP. They should not represent tough signs and should go for slot which makes life easier.

The biggest shocker of the day was the Reds taking Yonder Alonso. What happens to Votto? There was plenty of other talent on the board to take that would have made more sense, but I guess his pop was too much to pass up.

The biggest steal of the day was Justin Smoak going to Texas at 11. Scary to think about how much damage he could do in that park and it is really good to see the lower teams get the top guys. No one really fell because of signability with the exception of Gerrit Cole, but there is other baggage that comes with that one.

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  • If you have some time, fish through these pictures. There are some crazy ass ones in there like some guy who dislocated his ankle and it makes a left turn, the first one obviously, Nick Blackburn laid out, Aaron Rowand sliding, etc...

  • Mike Pelfrey continues to toss up encouraging performances and the Mets finally seem committed to giving him a chance. He can go out there knowing he has everyone's support and is not fighting for a job which should allow him to concentrate on getting big league hitters out.

  • The Brewers drafted Cutter Dykstra.

  • Javier Rodriguez, who is the Mets pick at 68, has a sweet swing. Check it out...

    Sean Ratliff knocked 20 homers in 61 games this season, but he also k'd 76 times. He is an intriguing pick, but he needs to substantially cut down on his k's.

    Overall, only one HS kid was selected by the Mets which is certainly interesting.

  • dg speaks the draft...

    Dare I say it? I like the Mets picks so far. We actually grabbed a two bagger with some cojones, then grabbed another for good measure. Plus, watched video of the kid from Puerto Rico and the kids has serious bat speed!

    BP's Kevin Goldstein had Brad Holt as their 50th best prospect and applauded the Mets' choice.

    And here's John Manuel on our Sixth Rounder:
    How did Josh Satin last until the sixth round? That’s a surprise, but he’s a college value pick with legit power and a small chance to stay at second base as a pro. The California senior has enough ability to be a useful outfielder and has the raw power to at least have a chance to reach the big leagues. He could be a utility player if he retains his athleticism and can play second or third base. Satin was the Cape Cod League all-star game MVP in 2007.

  • Today's game plan? Get Brett Hunter.



    Blogger metsfanincincy said...

    Mike, re: Yonder Alonso to the Reds. I think this is a perfect example of taking the best player available. The news and chatter here in Cincy is that the lesser of the two stud 1st baggers can always be traded for top pitching later if Alonso stays at first.

    I like the draft picks (I am so fucking happy to be saying that). The great part about drafting college hitters is that we should know within a couple of years if they are going to pan out or not. I am optimistic about both.

    12:59 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Well, was Alonso THE best on the list left? Cases could have been made for Beckman and Crow being comperable prospects and better long term fits.

    That is just me though...a weird pick. Also, Smoak was better but was passed probably due to money concerns.

    Soon than a couple of years...both should/could be in AA in 2009.

    1:21 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    At the end of the day, Ike was the best hitter still available and you can't hate the pick. Of course I and other would have liked guys like Smoak but... that wasn't going to happen.
    With Smoak, the Rangers essentionally got the new Mark Teixeira!
    I do however really like the Havens pick.

    Holt is a whatever but he has a ton of pitches accoridng to him. At the very least one of those can become a + pitch to compliment his fastball.

    Major props for James Shields. He was a badass during the fight. He didn't pussy out like many pitchers do.

    In regards to last night, the Mets didn't deserve to win that game so I'm not mad. If the Mets ended up winning that game it would have been robbery.

    Javier really does have a sweet swing. Its quick too.

    1:36 PM

    Anonymous benny said...

    AE, Scott Barnes and Justin Gutsie from St. John's were drafted 237th and 423 overall, which are and 8th and 14th round respectively.
    George Brown hasn't been taken yet...

    1:41 PM

    Anonymous Danny said...

    I'm very pleased with the draft.

    The more I see/read on Havens the happier I get about the pick. And even though some people are wondering if the Mets might move him to catcher, I really don't see it, as that would severely retard his development.

    I like Holt a lot. He’s got a nice frame and throws hard, and he’s not such a high pick where we have to give him a major league contract and feel the need to rush him through the system. So hopefully we take our time with Holt and develop him more carefully than say, I don’t know, Mike Pelfrey.

    Let's not talk about game last night. What a fucking debacle. At least Reyes showed up.

    1:57 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    So Benny...do they make Holt a starter or reliever? I think they are going to make him a reliever.

    I'm ok with losing as long as they play clean ball and they did. Decent pitching...no major mistakes. Schoe melted down, but that happens. Nothing really bad there.

    1:58 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Why make Havens a catcher? So he has to learn it for four years in the minors? You do that with guys like Dan Murphy....(not saying he can...but a decent stick that might be a borderline big league stick and played 3rd...meaning he has a good arm).

    I like Havens a lot as well and get more excited the more I read about him.

    1:59 PM

    Blogger metsfanincincy said...

    Yonder Alonso. You're a lot more knowledgable about prospects so I defer to you. Sounds like that was an odd pick. I'll listen for more on it here in Cicnyland. He's apparently not going to sign cheap, so they must have some other method to their madness.

    Benny - agree major props to Shields, but Gomes is a punk for jumping on the pile and throwing punches.

    That Havens a catcher thing seems like a media invention. They're trying to use Russell Martin as the new model for developing catchers. Sounds stupid to me. If catcher wasn't Martin's natural position, why would you intentionally shorten the career of such a good hitter. Haven's certainly isn't built like a catcher.

    3:07 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Regarding those sick pics on the AOL link you posted...


    How did I not hear about this crazy bike race accident in Mexico on June 1st? A car driving through an entire field of bicyclists that (judging from that photo) was fortunate to have only killed one person?!?

    Did you know of this prior to seeing the photo? Holy shit! I actually cried when I read about it further.

    3:16 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Hey...I would never complain about Yonder. He's a beast. Never a bat thing to draft a beast so I am not saying they did bad, just odd given what else was out there. Crow is a front end guy...Their offense is looking pretty good so far so I would have thought that nice arm would have been the pick.

    Not only is Haven's not built like a catcher, he would take another three years to develop!!! He would have so much to learn. I mean, he was a SS and should remain up the middle to get the most out of his bat.

    3:18 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    So far the Mets have followed my plan and avoided drafting anyone named Holds-cum!

    Probably just projection of what I think the Mets need, but Havens sounds like Wally B with some pop.

    My vote for weirdest swing is Sean Ratliff's.

    Methinks you're a big rough on Mr. Murphy. He may actually bud into something more than borderline. He's raking in his second year of pro ball at a level where most wannabee prospects level out. When Mets drafted him last year, they intimated that he was more than he was purported to be, and that seems to be the case.

    Which makes me (probably stupidly) optimistic to see all those guys with no scouting reports whatsoever slide by on the ole Draft Ticker.

    Been going through the State Scouting Reports seeing if I could find anything. Here's what I've found so far:

    Le Moyne righthander Eric Beaulac ranked as the top prospect in the New York Collegiate League last summer but saw his stock drop early this spring as his command and stuff were erratic. He was much better down the stretch, striking out nine in a no-hitter May 10 against Rider and finishing at 9-2, 2.83 with 113 strikeouts and 43 walks in 92 innings. Beaulac's 6-foot-5, 195-pound frame helps him get plenty of sink on his average fastball, which topped out at 93-94 down the stretch. He pitches in the 90-92 range early in games but drops into the high 80s after the fifth or sixth inning, leading some scouts to believe he'll be a reliever in pro ball. He also has failed to develop his changeup, though his slider is back to being an average pitch, and sometimes plus. Beaulac's delivery has some effort and he needs to add strength to his thin frame, but he's a good athlete and fields his position well.

    Third baseman Eric Campbell has some raw power and a decent approach but has holes offensively and is likely to fare better as a senior sign in 2009.

    Fullerton's top starting pitchers were battling injuries as the draft approached. Six-foot senior righty Jeff Kaplan, the team's steadiest starter in '07, touches the low 90s but works better in the upper 80s with sink. He can spot his fastball and works inside well.

    *Mitch Houck was the 44th highest prospect in Florida.
    *Colin McHugh was 35th in Georgia
    *Zack Rosenbaum was 24th in North Carolina
    *Mike Oliver was 4,987,231 in New Jersey

    We will miss you, Cutter!

    3:22 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    RE: the pics.....the bike race is actually why I posted it. It was the first one when I checked out the link, but it is nuts. Some intense photos in there. The javeline through the leg...the flying race cars...crazy shit.

    Ratliff's swing is nuts. The Hitch..the close stance. I'm not sure if that is really sounds mechanics...

    RE: Murphy...Maybe so. I like Murphy a lot, but he is not a premium guy like Havens. If Havens can play second with that bat...good times. And he likes to take walks!!!

    Fucker. 4,987,231? Man...I am sooo much better than that. I'm an offensive beasts!

    3:29 PM

    Anonymous DG said...


    • Cal State Fullerton ace Jeff Kaplan fell to the 11th round, and he might make the Mets look smart there. He’s both gritty and gutty, as evidenced by his heroics in the regional clincher against UCLA. More than that, he’s a Fullerton pitcher, which means he knows how to control the running game, work his fastball to both sides of the plate and has durability.

    3:35 PM

    Blogger AE said...

    i have no complaints with who the mets took in the first few rounds. hopefully some of them will pan out.

    benny, brown in the 27th round to the cards...brutal!!! hopefully he uses that as motivation. i'd like to see the kid make it.

    3:35 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    Regarding Holt, I think the Mets are going to make hi ma reliever BUT I think they should atleast in the beggining try him out as a starter.
    Appearently he has alot of pitches so let him start and let him work out on all his pitches for 6 innings at a time. If he fails then you can hope one of those pitches develops into a good one and then make him a reliever. But I still think the Mets make him a reliever off the bat, I hope not though.

    THe Reds and the Alonso pick was certainly a wierd one BUT Alonso is an animal. I'm higher on Alonso than others are. Watch!

    3:39 PM

    Anonymous Danny said...

    I saw tape of Beaulac and like him a lot as a reliever prospect. He throws with a whipping motion and has some great movement on his fastball. The slider flashes plus at times on the video. I think we could have something there.

    3:41 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    AE, George Brown just got picked by the Cardinals what round is that? 29? lol, jesus.
    He's a senior though so he's screwed.

    3:43 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    They Mets will make Holt a reliever right away, but I agree....let them see him as a starter first. He's got a arm and a half...so let him go chuck.

    3:54 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I'm pretty sure the Mets will try Holt as a starter for at least the next couple years. There's no reason not to. He throws hard, late into game (clocked at 94 in the 9th inning after 149 pitches last week). Put him at Brooklyn, let him fiddle with secondary pitches at a low level, and then if he's destined to be a reliever, move him there when he gets to AA. But his ability to hold velocity late in games is key.

    Plus, think about the Mets' MO. Can't remember them taking a starter and moving him to the pen. But they have taken many relievers (Niesen & Rustich, eg.) and converted them to starters.

    At least a handful of teams were looking at Havens as a C, so it's a real possibility. Call it Russell Martin syndrome. If he makes it there, you're talking All-Star. If he can't do it, moving to 2B is easy and wouldn't cost him more than a year in development. That's not the worst gamble ever.

    Don't hate on Murphy - I know I'm in the minority here, but I think he's the single best prospect in the system. Solid average last year after a huge level jump (basically college to High A), awesome control of strike zone (nearly a 1:1 BB:K ratio). And now this year he is tearing it up. Love this kid.

    As for the rest of the draft, I'm not as high on Davis, which tempers it for me. But, in a nutshell, I like Havens (1), Holt (1s), Rodriguez (2), Nieuwenhuis (3), Doyle (5), Moore (14), and Fuller (21). Can't stand Ratliff (4), Satin (6), and every pick between 30 & 37. Otherwise, I'll be higher on it when I see how many of the HS & College sophs they sign...


    11:42 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    Don't expect the Mets to sign Kyle Allen (25th round or thereabouts) as he was at the IMG baseball academy in Bradenton and already has an oral commitment with NC State. Though that's not exactly a powerhouse, IMG is also home to the Bolliteri Acadamy. You don't go there to sign in the 25th round.

    I think it's high time the Mets moved Mike Carp to No Orleans. He's clearly above AA at this point, and there's no way of knowing if he is ready for the majors next year without getting him to the upper levels and perhaps a bit of September in NY.

    4:18 PM

    Anonymous tc said...

    Ike Davis ... man of the people, and bears? At least the bitches in the last picture are decent looking. Thanks, Facebook:





    7:29 PM

    Anonymous Will said...

    HOW MANY CORNERS DO WE HAVE TO TURN. I'm getting dizzy and want somebody to pay with their head.

    7:18 AM

    Anonymous DG said...

    News brief, Monday morning:

    Mets still suck!

    9:07 AM

    Anonymous DG said...

    News brief, Monday afternoon:

    The Mets still suck!

    Maybe they should bring up another catcher!

    12:53 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    Evening update, Monday:

    Whole day of sucking!!

    6:36 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Maybe we can have a whole roster of catchers and then field them at other positions

    10:02 PM

    Anonymous DG said...

    Damn, anonymous beat me to the suggestion.

    Tuesday morning read: Adam Rubin, who takes apart Omar. Beginning to think there's a point in that.

    At least the Mets didn't lose yesterday.

    7:03 AM

    Blogger Rickey Henderson said...

    Maybe we can have a whole roster of catchers and then field them at other positions

    Rickey would remind you that you need three catchers when one of 'em can't remember to show up at the goddamned game.

    8:40 AM

    Blogger Sidd Finch said...

    Beaulac: 6'5" 195 = a coat rack. No wonder he's losing velocity after a few innings. The Mets should use him as a starter the first couple of years.

    8:59 AM

    Anonymous Castro, Casanova, Cancel said...

    You can never have too many light-hitting, poor-fielding, overweight, Latino catchers on your roster.

    9:23 AM

    Anonymous ossy said...

    anyone see ike davis get into a fight in his elimination game?

    9:31 AM

    Anonymous Will said...

    That was me, anonymous

    - Will

    The heavier the better

    11:37 AM

    Blogger Sidd Finch said...

    This comment has been removed by the author.

    11:03 AM

    Blogger Sidd Finch said...

    All time Mets manager wins - note #4 all time on the list. Willie might not make it to 300.

    Davey Johnson 595
    Bobby V 536
    Gil Hodges 339
    Willie 298
    Yogi 292
    Joe Torre 286
    Dallas Green 229
    Casey Stengel 175
    Buddy Harrelson 145
    Wes Westrum 142
    Joe Frazier 101
    Jeff Torborg 85
    George Bamberger 81
    Frank Howard 52
    Roy McMillan 26
    Salty Parker 4
    Mike Cubbage 3

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