Prognosis Negative
.477 winning % and a negative run differential with a 3-7 record in their last ten games. Hey, at least there is the Wild Card, right? Not so much. 7.5 games out of the Wild Card and six teams to leap frog versus three to leapfrog over for the division. The Phillies have an OPS+ of 107 and an ERA+ of 113 versus the Mets OPS+ of 97 and ERA+ of 96.
Last year, the Mets had an OPS+ of 107 and an ERA+ of 100 versus the Phillies OPS+ of 111 and an ERA+ of 97. Ten teams have been more proficient at hitting this season with only the Dodgers, Rockies, Giants, Padres, and Nationals being worse. Nine teams have been more proficient in regards to pitching this year with only the Padres, Marlins, Astros, Nationals, Pirates, and Rockies being worse.
Basically, things are not looking good and there really is no indication that things will be getting better and there is no reason to think the Mets are any better than the Phillies at this point in time and not in the near future. To think everyone will have an awakening and become the team everyone thinks they should have been, seems a bit naive at this point and I apolgize for being optimistic in the face of such mounting evidence. It is ugly. Very ugly.
"I'm feeling like it's very sore to walk," Alou said.
The 41-year-old left fielder would like to be active when the Mets begin a three-game series in Anaheim next week - Alou could be the DH in an AL park - but also knows his team needs healthy bodies for the weekend.
"I can't hold Omar [Minaya] and Willie [Randolph] to be a player short to see if I'd be able to [DH]," Alou said.
Who cares...let him hang around to DH. His bat then will be more valuable at that point than whatever they replace him with in the short term.
I am not ready to lambast Omar just yet and everyone cannot have it both ways. Didn't everyone WANT Johan? Gomez, Guerra, Humber, and Mulvey make things look better in terms of the farm system that people have been ripping him for, but then no Johan. As for the draft, it seems he is being capped by management to stay within slotting. Sure it is his job to convince them to do otherwise and he has failed at that, but he is still being restricted.
Also, he screwed up with some of his drafting by picking college relievers too early, but signing Beltran, Pedro, Wagner, and Alou hurt them bad as well. However, three of the four were necessary and you could easily say the Alou business was a colossal waste and a pick would have been better, but not the others. Has he REALLY killed the system? Looks to me like he had little choice. You can fault him for not persuading management to say fuck slot, but I simply cannot kill him for that.
As for some trades, the Bell deal was bad as was the Lindstrom deal. The Bannister deal was a league average pitcher jettisoned off, but he would be welcome these days. If you are going to hang the season on those deals, then you are missing some greater issues. His better moves (Duaner, Maine, and Perez) far outweigh the bad ones.
Delgado was a stud and had a 161 OPS+ before they got him and had a 131 OPS+ in year #1 and now Omar is an idiot for getting him? As bad as he was in '07, he had an OPS+ of 103 which is not terrible. Not many predicted this precipitous of a fall. He depended too much on El Duque? He picked him up for peanuts. The Castillo deal was a joke for sure, but he can be an expensive back up if they want to bite the bullet.
Overall, who would have done something differently? Adding Bannister and Bell help, but I do not remember people crying too much at the time of the deals. Fact is, Omar's moves did not work out in all cases, but he has done more good than bad and many of these deals are defensible. He should be on notice, but I think he should get another chance and the easiest and best thing to do is get rid of Willie. He doesn't get it and doesn't get how to manage and effectively use his players.
What goodwill has he built up? He has proved to be an inept manager from day one and has not built up any goodwill in my eyes. I have no real solution as to who to bring him, but anyone would be better by simply being different.
Labels: omar, suck, wille, willie time
53 Comments:
"Sure HoJo could take the fall, but then rip out the entire staff then. The hitting is not there so the hitting coach is a natural target, but hitting is far from their only problem. Hitting, culture, pitching, etc...You name it, it is wrong."
Can we just take the entire organization and replace them with another?
12:13 PM
"If not Randolph, then who? People want to give him a pass and go after Omar, but why? I think Omar deserves more of a second chance than Randolph does. I mean, what has Randolph done? Won? Not so much. Turned the team around? Not so much."
Actually I am one of those that wants BOTH of them fired at this point. You say what has Willie done? Well what has Omar done? Won? Not so much. Turned the team around? Not so much. Does anyone not realize that any success or failures by the Mets is tied to BOTH Omar and Willie? Omar may get credit for the success of the Mets in 2006, but Willie should get credit as well for managing that team. The same goes for the opposite with their recent failures. No matter how you splice it, Omar and Willie are tied to the hip like siamese twins. And I am pretty sure Omar realizes this first, which is probably why he has yet to pull the trigger on Willie, his human buffer to the unemployment line.
But the reality is that baseball is strictly a business, so naturally Omar will stay if Willie gets fired since a manager is easier to replace than a GM in mid-season.
12:20 PM
I would love to trade the Mets for the Rays...possible?
Well, I actually hated Randolph from day#1 after the moutache fiasco. What the hell was he thinking? Grown men need to be told when to shave?
I've agreed with a lot of what Omar does which is why I can see him getting more time...but even that has to end. He is also respsonsible for hiring Willie, which does mean something and means he fucked up royally.
12:26 PM
"What goodwill has he built up? He has proved to be an inept manager from day one and has not built up any goodwill in my eyes. I have no real solution as to who to bring him, but anyone would be better by simply being different."
At this point we have to come to the realization that outside of wholesale changes to the roster, no manager can come in and fix this crappy team, short of one who is a major disciplinarian with a Martin Riggs streak. At least no one in time to save Omar from really being on the hot seat in the off-season.
And we know the Mets are not going to hire a manager like that, since they put more emphasis on how they are perceived than actually winning.
My prediction is that if Willie gets fired (as he should) and Omar stays and gets a second chance, and if the Mets are still playing this fuckin' game of giving it to the fans in the rear, then Omar is going to get way more heat from all angles (fans and media) than Willie got.
Bank on it.
12:28 PM
"I would love to trade the Mets for the Rays...possible?"
Maybe. Although with the history of trades between the two clubs, the Mets may end up getting the Rays AA affiliate,…on second thought, they might actually be better than the Mets to begin with.
"Well, I actually hated Randolph from day#1 after the moutache fiasco. What the hell was he thinking? Grown men need to be told when to shave? "
That was stupid. But now I am wondering if what they need is something like that (but not exactly) that will instill some discipline into their daily regimen? If ever there was a group of undisciplined lazy fat-asses, it is these Mets. They need to all shave their heads again. Remember that they went on a nice little streak after they did it the last time.
"I've agreed with a lot of what Omar does which is why I can see him getting more time...but even that has to end. He is also respsonsible for hiring Willie, which does mean something and means he fucked up royally."
I have said it before. That alone should have been reason to fire Omar. But he towed the company line with the Willie hiring. I will say this. Outside of any aspects of Omar's regime that he dropped the ball on (Minor league development, signing old players) he really fucked up by not at least letting Willie choose his own coaches.
I would love to see if Omar would do that to a more established manager or Wally Backman. Omar may end up wit a permanent stutter to add to his already annoying verbal habits.
12:34 PM
According top SI.com:
"According to Heyman, if Randolph is fired, the job will go to Jerry Manuel, “who would be given the season to see whether he can turn things around.”"
Manuel? As an interim? Bleh!
I guess they have no choice.
No fuck that! They have plenty of choices, they just have no balls.
Call Wally Backman. I am sure he won't mind.
12:43 PM
While I agree no manager is going to come in a change things, I'm sick of looking at him. I know that he is not a good fit if the right players were here so why have him around?
I hate how he doesn't give kids a chance (Bell when he was clearly useful, Gotay last year when he was outhiting everyone else @ 2b, Humber while Mota was clearly not getting it done, Milledge when Green was not a better option...etc.) What's the point? He flat out needs to go anyway.
I know you agree he should be gone, but I just don't understand why he is still here. Omar is on notice 100%, but his deals had looked good. Who didn't think he assembled a good team this year?
Maybe the Mets need some more structure...maybe they don't. Maybe they simply hate Willie and don't respect him...maybe they do. I have no idea, but Willie shouldn't be baby sitting them. He should be motivating them and he is not doing that. Maybe this group cannot be motivated...maybe they are really giving a Jeter-esque 110%...Who knows? I sure don't but Willie is not getting the right response and this team appears to be in a fog...
He cried racism and cried about conspiracy theories with SNY trying to make him look bad and lashed out at the fans saying they should respect him for what he did with this team...which was keep the Mets out of the '07 playoffs.
Willie would have brought in terrible coaches...I'm sure about that. Even so, doesn't that alone say they Mets had little faith and respect for him? Why is he even here? He has no power.
Backman would be a good choice. A big change from the current guy. The Mets went from laid back Art to laid back Willie. Great!!!
Jerry Manuel might be better than Willie and at least no one (cough, Joe Morgan, cough) can cry racism.
12:54 PM
I would love Wally Backman. Unfortunately, I don't see this group of characters listening to a tax evading, wife beating, alcoholic who couldn't control his own life for so long. I don't think he's going to get the respect needed. He would've been the perfect manager for that young Arizona team when he got that job. I hear young guys would do anything for him. If the team could just lose all the older dead weight and get younger it sure would be fun to see a guy like him managing.
During the game yesterday, it was something that most people didn't notice. But there was a little pop foul towards first base. Any real 1st basemen that had any ounce of passion would've hustled dove and caught the ball. Delgado made a couple faint steps and stopped. It was a joke. I went ballistic screaming as people around me thought I was a lunatic. Just can't take watching that lack of hustle. I officially think Delgado is a POS.
I have a feeling the Willie firing is going to happen out of no where. Like 2PM in the middle of the afternoon one of these days. Just poof! He's gone. That will be a good day.
12:57 PM
Jerry Manuel = more of the same
1:04 PM
I would be fine with Backman. Who is squeaky clean? I don't condone anything he did, but what if he changed? I don't know... The Mets are way to image conscious anyway, but whatever.
Delgado is done. Give me Carp instead and cut him. He is dead weight.
Fucking silly.
Possibly Sidd, but he is different. If it is, he was interim anyway.
1:07 PM
"I apolgize for being optimistic in the face of such mounting evidence"
No need, such is being a Met fan.
"Pelfrey looked tremendous in his last start and almost become league average with it"
First half of sentence: Good. Second half of sentence: Not so much.
SI.com (Heyman) and FoxSprots (Rosenthal) both say that Willie is "day to day" and Omar and the brass met yesterday to seriously consider removing him. Peterson and HoJo are going with him. Manuel would take over until the end of the season, and the AAA pitching coach would move up.
I have tickets to all three Texas games. I can't even sell them. I literally would need pay someone to take these off my hands.
1:26 PM
Sorry -- didn't see Almar posted the ending. But Sidd's right, Manuel is more of the same ... but maybe I only think that way because he's Willie's bench guy. If given free reign, maybe he'd shake things up. After all, he did get thrown out of that game a couple of weeks ago as Willie sat grooming his stache and picking his ass.
1:29 PM
tc...baby steps with Pelfrey. You have to be league average before you can be better than league average.
No way you can sell those babies. You might as well use them as kindling.
RE: Manuel, good point. I mean, he cannot overshadow or trump Willie, so he is staying within his boundries. If given the chance, we have no idea what he would do.
1:36 PM
....and it certainly could not hurt to see what he can do!
1:37 PM
"Willie would have brought in terrible coaches...I'm sure about that. Even so, doesn't that alone say they Mets had little faith and respect for him? Why is he even here? He has no power."
I am not so sure of that. I mean, we will never know, right? But what we do know what that the only coach he did bring in, that was "his" guy, was Rick Down, and he did a pretty decent job as batting coach, at least based on the theory that batting coach have an effect. I am not so sure it is not a coincidence that since Hojo took over, the Mets have been AAA at best with their offense, whereas under Down's watch in 2006 they tore the NL a new one. I read somewhere last year that Down connected with Reyes somehow and got through to the kid, which resulted in his MVP-like season in 2006. If that alone was his only accomplishment, it should have deserved a lifetime job with the organization.
Right or wrong, whom do you trust to choose coaches to surround your manager? The GM or the actual manager himself?
1:43 PM
In report for ESPN.com, citing ‘a baseball man who speaks regularly with Mets management,’ Jayson Stark writes that ‘Randolph is not going to be fired. Period.’
What the fuck?
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1:44 PM
Is Wilford Brimley still alive? He did a heck of a job with the NY Knights...let's give him a shot - he can't do any worse.
Even better would be the coach in "Major League". I'll even settle for the kid from "Little Big League".
1:50 PM
"In report for ESPN.com, citing ‘a baseball man who speaks regularly with Mets management,’ Jayson Stark writes that ‘Randolph is not going to be fired. Period.’
What the fuck? "
I wouldn't sweat it TC. That's all just the standard corporate-speak during times like these. Guaranteed that Willie be gone unless this disaster in the making rights itself.
Hell, short of a WS berth WIllie should be gone even if he makes the playoffs,…for shits & giggles.
2:01 PM
a tactician manager would be my preference once willie gets the boot.
i say we move/cut/flush alou, delgado, and el duque. they are all dead weight.
ill be ok with mr met @ 1b.
ripping minaya is a joke. look @ our talent b4 he ot here and compare. he cant draft a star player if the wilpons arent gonna break slot. his affinity for vets is questionable but it has worked sometimes. but then again, willie loves to shit on rooks (see angel pagan)
you can knock lidstrom & bell trades but look at duaner and maine.
2:24 PM
Almar, great point on Rick Down. I think he still needs a job doesn't he? Why not bring him back? They did kick much ass when he was the hitting coach.
From what I know, I was living in Chicago at the tail end of Jerry Manuels time there as mgr of the White Sox. I heard he did a very good job there and was solid. I would take him right now as the interim the rest of the year to see what he could do. Wouldn't be a bad thing. It's definitely not like he's one of Willie's "underlings" or guys, he just needed a gig and took it. I think he could be all right and better than Willie for sure.
TC, agreed with Almar. I'm not buying that report for a second. Willie will be fired.
2:31 PM
I knew prior to the season we were going to be in a battle to win the EAST but my expectations of seeing what is occuring must be a night mare for you folks back in NY.
Every aspect of this teams game is underperforming accept the starting pitching, I know this is a long road but since 162 games ago we are no better than a .500 team and sinking slowly into the WEST.
2:52 PM
Ossy....we are in sync.
tc...that news is distressing.
sonnyd...good to hear from you.
steve...has the pitching been as good as it should be? That hasn't either. Nothing has.
3:12 PM
"ripping minaya is a joke."
Not neccesarily. Yes Omar did fine with acquiring free agents now that he had a huge budget to work with and an owner who became friendlier to large contracts, and yes Omar was able to get Maine in a steal from Baltimore. But for all the good things he did, he can be held very accountable for loading this team up with old vets who are injury prone, and not building a viable support system in AAA to deal with the rash oif injuries due to age. hell, he cna be held accountable for hiring Willie to begin with!
"his affinity for vets is questionable but it has worked sometimes."
"Sometimes" doesn't cut it considering the contracts doled out to these vets. This is the Omar Minyaya who touted himself as being a savvy scout and how he would bring that to the position. This is a GM who when he was first hired talked about how he wanted to emulate the Atlanta Braves model of building the organization. Apparently he left that project on the kitchen stove.
Darling himself called Omar out by saying he misjudged the climate in baseball where everyone else is building through youth and not free agency as they did in the 90s. Now Omar has to do a 180 and change his philosophy. Not an easy task.
Sorry but even though Omar will get a second chance, he should be rightly ripped.
4:08 PM
According to the Post, Willie is on thin ice, and so is HoJo and the Jacket.
They say he will manage today, but say it's not clear why. They won't fire him with 299 wins.
4:30 PM
There's talk about how WIllie needs to do something drastic with this team, whether it is out of the box thinking with the lineup, or demotions of certain pitchers to the bullpen, etc.
But point is you can't spin gold out of dog vomit.
Hell, even firing Willie would just be arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic at this point, even though it IS necessary to do so for the sake of whatever remaining sanity is left in fandom.
If they really want to impress us, how about releasing Delgado. NO questions asked, just release the fucker. Now there's a step that should make every other underperforming veteran wake up and take notice.
4:38 PM
Darling himself called Omar out by saying he misjudged the climate in baseball where everyone else is building through youth and not free agency as they did in the 90s. Now Omar has to do a 180 and change his philosophy. Not an easy task.
I 100% disagree here. Since he came here, he has not dealt away the system. He lost picks to Pedro + Beltran (had to), Wagner (had to), and Alou (questionable pick and would have been better not happening and keeping the first rounder), and traded a bunch of guys for Johan (had to happen and 99% of the fans wanted).
Then he drafted poorly and you can fault him for picking up colledge relievers, but he was also under orders to not go over slot. I just cannot kill him for not having youth...
4:38 PM
I'VE GOT IT! I know how to end the funk!
Pedro starts throwing at people in his next start, and starts a bench clearing brawl! It worked when he was with the Sawx....
4:43 PM
"I just cannot kill him for not having youth.."
I understand what you are saying, but you CAN kill him for that since that was the platform he preached from when he first came here. I mean, he REALLY sold the fans on this idea and then went ahead and did the opposite, whether it was his doing or not. Where was this "plan" that he seemed so eager to implement?
This idea that he was under orders to not go over slot,…he himself said publicly that not going over slot had more to do with the talent not being available to warrant going over than adhering to the Comissioner's edict. Now either he was wrong on that (in which case he can get killed on that) or he is lying about the Mets reasons for not going over slot (in which case he is weak minded pussy that just spouts the company line, like Jim Duquette.)
If Omar went on TV the day he was hired and said that he would sign over the hill veterans, fall asleep on building the farm system, let players diagnose their own injuries, hire an inexperienced manager from the Yankees, he never would have seen the light of day in the fans eyes.
5:07 PM
"I 100% disagree here. Since he came here, he has not dealt away the system. "
No one is saying he dealt way the system here. The Johan and Beltran deals were valid in my eyes as far as losing any draft picks. It just seems that he got lazy in developing the farm system, due to fascination wth the Alou's and El Duques of the world. (Yes I am being sarcastic).
Where is this "pipeline" he supposedly was relying on in Latin American countries? is there any word on any potential players there? He has been here 3.5 years and league is passing him by as far as system development. I hope you are not misunderstanding me. If Omar had not preached so much about this supposed aspect of his what his administration would focus hard on, then a lot of us would not be questioning him as such. But he put it out there to make himself seem like the Messiah for this team, so he has to take the heat.
5:14 PM
I am not impressed with what either Omar or Willie has done. The fact that Omar replaced Steve Phillips I think makes him look a whole lot better than he actually is. Willie is by no means a good manager but he didn't put this piece of shit team together. The argument that guys don't play for Willie doesn't carry a whole lot of weight. There are plenty of reasons to play even if they hate Willie, for instance winning, money, pride, your teammates. A couple players may be underachieving but the majority are old or just not very good. I'm fine with firing Willie but I don't expect any drastic result to come of it. This organization needs change and improvement from top to bottom.
5:19 PM
WHITEY HERZOG!!!!!
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6:01 PM
Ouch:
Q: Anthony from Staten Island, NY asks:
Will Carp be able to make a contribution to the Mets next year or will we have to look to free agency to fill our hole at first base? Also do you project him to be a middle of the order bat? Thanks.
A:
Ben Badler: At the beginning of the season I was skeptical of Carp, but I'd rather him at first base right now than Carlos Delgado. Now maybe he cools off a bit down the line, but right now based just on true talent and not name recognition, I think Carp is the better player.
7:33 PM
I hate the Mets but I also hate the Phillies.
So uhh... what does Robinson Cancel bring to the table again? Because I might have missed it the first time he was up.
I think its time for Alou to retire. The man can't even walk, lol. Shit is funny.
How does Willie get a free pass and Omar doesn't, I don't get it? How does that happen?
"According to Heyman, if Randolph is fired, the job will go to Jerry Manuel, “who would be given the season to see whether he can turn things around.”"
Then why bother making a move at all. Positives? atleast Manuel has managed a team before.
And getting rid of Peterson? Really? Any real reason as to why? Peterson is actually good and knows what he's doing. I didn't know pitching was the problem. Well... it is the problem but I didn't know Peterson was responsible for Wagner sucking balls.
In report for ESPN.com, citing ‘a baseball man who speaks regularly with Mets management,’
Who is this guy and what does that even mean? lol.
9:45 PM
Release Delgado and we lose Beltran for the season mentally. As much as I want to see someone else playing more there, I think we have to ride that one out.
I have always been a fan of throwing at the opposition but I don't think even a bench clearing brawl would make this team win more than a few games. Plus, we risk the chance that some of the statues
and lawn furniture might get broken.
11:37 AM
Hey does Trot Nixon actually make us YOUNGER?
11:38 AM
I'm sorry, but for any series of moves a GM makes, including signing vets, "sometimes" being right is all you can expect. No GM is always right.
Look, everyone loves the Red Sox now, and I've heard people say the Mets should replace Minaya with someone from that system. How's the Lugo signing working out for them? How about that Gabbard and Murphy trade for Gagne? Those deals are worse than anything Minaya has done. Murphy's a better player - by far - then Bannister, or Bell, or Lindstrom, or Gotay. And you know what - Sox fans accept this & move on because they know Theo & Co. have headed the team in the right direction. Winning the World Series sure had a big part to do about this. But are you telling me that if the Mets won 5 more games in 2006, Omar would be untouchable, but should be fired now because they didn't??
It's not hard to see what's happened with this team. Omar took over and started building a young team, and 2006 was clearly their year. In an effort to get them over the hump, he tried adding a few veterans & holding on to a few others too long, and in 2007 they treaded water, this year they've reached the end of line. Such is life, it happens to the best of GMs.
BUT...Omar has clearly, inarguably made this team significantly better since he took over. Even this team is better than anything the 3 years previous. We still have a young core of Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Church, Johan, Maine, Perez and Pelfrey that is up there with almost any team's. Given Omar's track record, doesn't he at least deserve one more year to clean out the old (El Duque, Alou, Delgado, chunks of the bench, maybe Pedro) and see what he can add?? How is that even a debate, really??
-ube
12:07 PM
Screw this. Don't you all know the Mets want to be 15 games out on September 1st and come back to win it as the Phillies crumble.
Good Bye 2007. This is 2008. More of the same but different.
12:09 PM
Don Baylor? What's this?
12:20 PM
You just knew Ollie would put in a good performance against a team closer to home, particularly one known fo picking up any and all pitchers.
In any case, it was nice to see Ollie Perez out there and not the Oliver Hardy that's been taking the mound of late.
1:51 PM
Davidoff says, "fire him!":
This limbo period can't go on any longer. If Minaya won't commit to Randolph for the duration of the season -- and Willie hasn't earned that sort of devotion -- then he might as well move on and see what Manuel can do.
People say that Manuel and Randolph are too similar, but I don't think so. Randolph's biggest flaw hasn't been his lack of fire, but his failure to bond with his players. Manuel, during his six years leading the White Sox, proved more successful in that department.
4:41 PM
Wilie just cannot seem to motivate this team, the disaster in SD proves that when this team is flat they are dead.
The record should improve in the second half with a much easier schedule with more days off for travel etc. This probably will save Randolph's job...unfortunately.
We also need a harder hitting 1b. Delgado is done...D.O.N.E. done!
Trot Nixon a Met again? How much playing time will he see? RF is his as far as I am concerned and if he hits he can bat ahead of Delgado.
12:50 PM
Oh yeah I forgot....GIVE DAVID WRIGHT A DAY OFF U IDIOT!!!!!!!
Yes he is an essential part of the team but by the late innings of each game his ass is hanging low. Let him stay home for one damn game!
1:03 PM
How about a swap of Delgado for Helton? I know we would have to eat 2 more years of Helton mediocrity after this season where as Delgado is gone. But Helton is at least hitting the damn ball.
1:10 PM
How about swapping Delgado for a hamburger on Tuesday! Frankly, with both Evans & Carp hitting well in Binghamton and both playing the outfield as well, why not a platoon here now?
2:53 PM
By the time you read this Brian Schneider will be about two steps from home plate. Of course, game 2 will already have begun....
Willie, Sandy should go!
5:01 PM
Let's Hope Church doesn't equal Koskie
9:35 PM
The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed.
Finding good players is easy. Getting them to play as a team is another story.
http://www.firewillierandolph.com/2008/06/not-all-willies-fault.html
2:06 AM
Thought this was interesting...
Player A:
66 games played, 244 AB, 33R, 60 hits, 12 2B, 1 3B, 9HR, 32RBI, 28BB, 55SO, 1SB, 0CS, .246/.326/.414/.740.
Player B:
67 games played, 237 AB, 31R, 58 hits, 14 2B, 0 3B, 7HR, 30RBI, 42BB, 41SO, 0SB, 1CS, .245/.357/.392/.749.
Both players play at power positions, are in their mid to late 30's, and have always been seen as class acts with no steroid connections. Both players play on underachieving teams.
Fans seem to hate player A and want him released. He is generally thought to be a worthless piece of crap and is routinely booed at by his team's fans. The thought of trading him is seen as a joke because who would him?
The trade rumors swirl concerning player B. Release him? Ridiculous! He is seen as a beloved hero!
I'm sure this is easy and you all know that Player A is our own Carlos Delgado and Player B is Griffey.
Just sayin'...
8:40 AM
Delgado's stats Apr 10 - 26
AB R H 2B HR RBI AVE OBP SLG
65 5 9 1 2 9 .138 .243 .246
Rest of year
AB R H 2B HR RBI AVE OBP SLG
179 28 51 11 7 23 .284 .353 .474
June
AB R H 2B HR RBI AVE OBP SLG
51 8 16 5 7 26 .397 .510 .314
Maybe our own Carlos Delgado is not as much of a problem than many think.....
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