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Monday, February 11, 2008

No No, No, No No No, No No

Joe Posnanski had a nice post about something weighing heavily on our feeble minds.

There are so many fun things to be found in The Bill James Handbook. I was glancing through it again in my flu-ridden stupor and ran across his pitchers most likely to throw a no-hitter along with their percentages.

1. Scott Kazmir, 24%
2. Erik Bedard, 23%
3. Jake Peavy, 20%
4. Johan Santana, 17%
5. Daisuke Matsuzaka, 13%
6. A.J. Burnett, 12%
7. Chris Young, 12%
8. Tim Lincecum, 12%
9. Javier Vazquez, 11%
10. Oliver Perez, 11%

Mind you, this actually has some statistical relevance. There was actual thought and number crunching that helped comprise this list. I am a bit shocked at Vazquez's inclusion here, but the rest have that domination factor. When they are on, they are unhittable and they have devastating out pitches that are second to none when they are working. Joe also assembles his own list in a non-scientific manner, but it is hard to argue with his list.

1. Johan Santana.

I’m stunned that not only has Santana never thrown a no-hitter, he’s never thrown a one-hitter. He’s never thrown a two-hitter. Of course, the reason for that is simple: Santana does not complete games — the guy has six complete games in his career so far.

You have to agree with his #1 choice and that is not being a homer. The guy is moving to the NL with a big park and a good, and sometimes great when Endy subs in for Alou, defense behind him. As for him not completing games, who cares? If you could see the look on my face, you would see the look of a person who does not care. The guy has simply no reason to push himself and has logged more innings than any human since 2004. If all the chips are down, I have no doubt he will push it.

2. Chris Young.

He has led the major leagues in fewest hits allowed per nine innings each of the last two years, which is pretty amazing. But when it comes to pitching into the late innings, he makes Johan Santana look like Robin Roberts. Young had made 99 starts in his still young career and he has completed exactly 0.0 of those games. Not one complete game. He currently ranks fifth on that all-time list, most starts without a complete game (behind Tony Armas, Casey Fossum, Shawn Chacon and Claudio Vargas) and I would say he is by the most accomplished starter to never complete a game.

Fewest hits per nine? Nice. Despite the facts, I am not agreeing with his place among the top ten. Also, other factors apply which you will see down the line.

3. Scott Kazmir.

One complete game in young Kaz’s career. You know, I realized that the complete game is way, way down and everything, but I guess until I started looking at young pitchers, I had never really put it in proper perspective.

Pitcher of the 1950s:
Warren Spahn (215 complete games) or Robin Roberts (237 CGs).
Pitcher of the 1960s: Juan Marichal (196 CGs) or Bob Gibson (165 CGs)
Pitcher of the 1970s: Jim Palmer (175 CGs) or Tom Seaver (147 CGs)
Pitcher of the 1980s: Jack Morris (133 CGs) or Fernando Valenzuela (102 CGs)
Pitcher of the 1990s: Greg Maddux (75 CGs) or Roger Clemens (57 CGs)
Pitcher of the 2000s: Randy Johnson (30 CGs), Pedro (18 CGs), Johan Santana (6 CGs) or Clemens (3 CGs).

We’re there — we’re at that ground floor in baseball now where the complete game is so outdated that it’s possible that the best pitcher in the 2010s might not complete a single game. Or maybe, who knows, some manager and GM will figure that the best way they could score runs would be to go to the old Earl Weaver and Casey Stengel method of platooning, and that will mean the need to have more hitters, thus fewer pitcher, and that would lead to more complete games. I doubt it — as Bill James will tell you the complete game has been dwindling pretty consistently since the beginning of the 20th Century.

It seems unlikely now for that trend to ever get reversed. Anyway, Kazmir’s stuff is so overpowering, he will — assuming he stays healthy — have more than one shot at a no-hitter, I think. I have him below the other two only because it seems to me that an American League guy — especially on an American League team with 19 games against the Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays — will have a tougher time throwing the no-no. Of course, that might be wrong. All three no-hitters in 2007 were by American Leaguers (though Justin Verlander threw his against Milwaukee).

I kept that entire blurb because it speaks to the craziness of the game today and how gently pitchers are treated these days. That being said, Kazmir can do it. When that slider is on and his fastball is humming, he is so fun to watch.

4. Carlos Zambrano.

I’m surprised he’s not on Bill’s list, though I’m certain there’s a sound reason for it. Zambrano seems to me one of the rare guys in today’s game who — even though he has never actually thrown a no-hitter — is a legitimate threat any time he pitches*. He’s thrown a couple of eight-inning one hitters, two complete game two hitters, if he was pitching in San Diego or LA or somewhere like that I would bet on him being the No. 1 choice to get the next no-hitter.

My issue with the Big Z. is his walks. However, the man can throw 150 pitches so I would not think the walks prohibit him. Didn't Burnett walk like six during a no hitter? I would suspect his would go something like that.

5. Jake Peavy.

Another guy who doesn’t complete games. He deservedly ran away with the NL Cy Young Award last year even though he did not throw a shutout nor complete even one game. Last guy to win the NL Cy Young without a single complete game? Roger Clemens in 2004. But Peavy was a lot better than Clemens in 2004 — he became the 30th pitcher since 1900 to win the League Triple Crown — most wins, most strikeouts, best ERA. He was the first to do it without a complete game* — (only Johan Santana in 2006 has done it without throwing a shutout). *Another sign of the times.

Here is a sampling of those Triple Crown winners: Lefty Gomez, 1934: 26-5, 2.33 ERA, 25 CGs, 6 SHOs. Bob Feller, 1940: 27-11, 2.61 ERA, 31 CGs, 4 SHOs. Sandy Koufax, 1965: 26-8, 2.04 ERA, 27 CGs, 8 SHOs. Steve Carlton, 1972: 27-10, 1.97 ERA, 30 CGs, 8 SHOs. Dwight Gooden, 1985: 24-4, 1.53 ERA, 16 CGs, 8 SHOs. Roger Clemens, 1997: 21-7, 2.05 ERA, 9 CGs, 3 SHOs, x HGHs Pedro Martinez, 1999: 23-4, 2.07 ERA, 5 CGs, 1 SHO. Randy Johnson, 2002: 24-5, 2.32 ERA, 8 CGs, 4 SHOs. Jake Peavy, 2007: 19-6, 2.54 ERA, 0 CGs, 0 SHOs.

The caveat for him is the outfield defense. I would say more things have to go right for him than others on the list. One or two spectacular plays need to be made and with Kouzmanoff at third and the aging outfielders with Headly/Hairston in left, you would be hard pressed to convince me he can throw one without striking out twenty. That would especially be true at home with such an expansive outfield when those guys simply cannot go after balls and vacuum everything up.

6. Erik Bedard.

My favorite Erik Bedard story so far was hearing Brian Bannister talk about facing him in spring training. Banny — what a guy. He takes a lot of pride in his hitting, and he said he was facing Bedard and the guy was throwing serious gas. Banny says that what makes Bedard’s gas so much more effective than most is that he hides the ball really well so that when you’re swinging, it’s ON YOU before you even know what happened. Anyway, Banny’s telling the story and he says (I’m paraphrasing), “So Bedard throws me a pitch, and I’m right on it. I mean I’m right on it. And I hit a hard line drive — I’m right on it, this is the best I can do — and it goes foul over the first -base dugout. And then I’m like, ‘Uh, OK, I don’t think I’m hitting this guy.”

Awesome story. Awesome pick. That is especially true if he moves to SafeCo, but Ichiro might have to call off Ibanez a few times though.

7. Tim Lincecum.

He just seems sort of a modern day Jose Deleon — I think he’ll have no-hitters going into the sixth and seventh inning for as long as he can stay healthy.

Great arm and a great pick. I just hope it does not happen against the Mets.

8. Matt Cain.

I guess a 22-year old stud who consistently allows fewer than 8 hits per nine innings and has been good for one complete game each year he’s been in the big leagues should be on this list.

Man, the Giants sure can develop pitching. Now about those bats...

9. John Maine.

I don’t know why … I just think this is the guy who is going to break that Mets curse. He’s thrown a shutout each of the last two years, he keeps hits way down, he strikes out people. Here’s the second preseason call of 2008 — John Maine throws a no-hitter for the Mets.*

*Brilliant reader Jeff P. already points out the contradiction that if I think Maine will throw the first Mets no-hitter, he should be ranked ahead of Santana. It’s true. However, it’s a mind-heart thing. My mind says that Santana is the most likely guy in baseball to throw a no-hitter in 2008. But my heart says he’s another Mets great who won’t throw a no-hitter for the team (while young and up-and-comer John Maine will). The rankings are more based on mind. The opinions are more based on heart. I know this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but there you go. It’s like Eddie told Tom Berenger. Words and music, man. Words and music.

How can you not agree with this one? We have seen him almost do it about two times already and simply dominates some games. When he is on and getting people to chase those high heaters, he motors through the lineup.

10. Cole Hamels.

I’m a huge no-hit fan of Fausto Carmona, King Felix, Jered Weaver, but for whatever reason I can already see the headline: “Cole Hamels Throws No-No.”

How can you not agree with this one? He looks people make stupid every night with that change-up. Overall, a great list.

However, I would like to inject some more homerism and remove his #2 off the list and slide in Oliver Perez somewhere between seventh and tenth. If you put Kazmir on there, Oliver needs to be as well. Their stuff is comparable when they are on and both sliders could arguably be the best from any lefties in the game so I am with Bill James on this one. The guy may walk ten one night, but he can rebound with nine k's and no walks the next time out. Believe the hype.

* * *

  • Jim Caple has a nice article on the Twins fantasy camp he attended.

  • It looks like Schilling is going to go down the non-surgical path. Of course this is what Pedro had ailing him and he too initially opted for the non-surgical path at first. That might get him through the 2nd half of '08, but he will need to go under the knife after that.

    However, his doctor thinks he may never pitch again without surgery. Even if he could come out and pitch in 2008, would sitting out 2009 after surgery mean retirement is in his future after 2008? It would be hard to envision him sitting out 2009 and rehabbing all the way back in 2010. The only way I see Schilling returning to pitch again is if get surgery now and eyes the 2009 season.

  • Everything you wanted to know about Erik Bedard and more. He seems like a down to Earth guy and seems like he would do well Seattle given their lack of New York/Boston-like media coverage.

  • A little Colbert action. Not enough? How about some more Colbert action.

  • Stupid, stupid, stupid animals.

  • Boo hoo. The Braves are getting no respect. ESPN did a hot stove match-up in which they debated who was the better team in the NL East between two teams and neither was Atlanta. Of course, the Braves are the 2nd best team in the division. I mean, yes, the Phillies won the division, but they are have holes and many of them.

    The Rockies may have finished second and made it to the World Series, but who is speaking of them in the same regard as the Dodgers, D-Backs, and Padres? Not many. You will forgive me if I think the NL East is in fact a two team race that does not include the Phillies. One thing I do have an issue with is this:

    RIGHT FIELD — Also not close, but in the Braves' favor. Jeff Francoeur is far preferable to the Mets' Chavez/Church duo and the Phillies' Geoff Jenkins/So Taguchi/Jason Werth combination

    Frenchy facts: In 2006, he had a .260/.293/.449 line. Yikes. His 2007 line was .293/.338/.444. The bad news is even though he improved in the plate discipline department, he was still pretty bad and simply covered it up better with a higher BA. It is also worth noting he had a BABIP of .337 in '05, .284 in '06, and .337 in '07. The MLB average is usually between .290 and .300. Of course the big time players end up sustaining a much higher BABIP, but we have no idea if that does include Frenchy. He had exactly the same about of XBHs in '07 and in '06, but ten fewer balls found their way over the way in '07. His OPS+ was 87 in '06 and 103 in '07. Overall he notched 22 Win Shares, after nabbing 16 in '06.

    I guess the real question is, who is Frenchy? Is he Atlanta's David Wright as many over zealous fan dubbed him? Or is he another toolsy player that has trouble putting it all together?

    Church facts: Churchy compiled 19 Win Shares in 18 less games in '07. In '06, he tallied 6 less Win Shares in 71 games compared to 162 for Frenchy. Over the last three seasons, he beat Frenchy's career best OBP and posted an OPS+ of 118, 131, and 114. He also posted a higher WARP1 in '07 for good measure. The big thing here is one guy will be 24 next year while the other would be 29, but why no love for Church? If I were making a team for the long term, I could not deny Frenchy's upside, but for 2008 and maybe even 2009, give me some Ryan Church. I am shocked people really think this guy is an afterthought.

  • Let this one marinate in your head for a second. It is great! The entire family is crooked.

    "Roger came to me one day and told me that we had been asked to do a photo shoot for Sports Illustrated," Debbie Clemens recalls. "I had major anxiety! I was a 39-year-old mother of 4! Once I realized that this WAS going to be a reality, I decided I had to give it everything I had." "My mind was set," Debbie Clemens continued. "I am not a risk taker, but have since learned that with great risk, sometimes comes great reward. The responses from that experience have been wonderful and I feel it was a turning point in my life. It's nice to have a goal for yourself and to see it through. The goal kept me motivated and focused. Using common sense and my ability to balance my life, I achieved that goal."

    Big risk. Taking some clothes off and smiling in spread that everyone forgot until now? I totally admire you for that. There was also a tasty one in the comments:

    If it's true, maybe Kim Mattingly should've taken some as well, then she's still be hot.

    Ziiiiing!! Now, that is not nice. True, but not nice.

    Take a look at this link as well. The pictures are classic. Nothing like getting together with a few buddies and downing some Miller Lites and injected some steroids.

  • I have not seen this one before so it is new to me.

  • All eyes will be on Santana this spring.......wait....no...all eyes will be on Pedro this spring. Luckily there is enough media coverage both will get their fair share of attention. There is no question they are both important, but there is also no question for me about either of those two. They are both going to healthy and very good.

  • Steve Popper has lots of questions. He could have just asked me though. I have answers to all of them.

  • McNamee's lawyers sees the Feds getting involved in the Clemens case. Roger, Roger, Roger...maybe you could have come up with a half lie and say you did it once like everyone else. Now you are going to come out looking horrible if this goes awry. Or maybe he is taking the George Costanza stance on lying.

    It's not a lie if you believe it.

  • Fernando Tatis gets an invite to Spring Training.

    New York Edition: Aside from 56 at-bats for Baltimore in 2006, Fernando Tatis has not played in the majors since 2003. Nevertheless, the Mets have invited him to spring training and would love to have a righty bat to potentially serve the role Julio Franco once filled - pinch-hitter/caddy to Carlos Delgado.

  • The Yankees inked Robinson Cano and bought out his last years of arbitration and tacked on a few more.

    He will receive $3 million this season, followed by salaries of $6 million, $9 million and $10 million. The Yankees will have a $14 million option for 2012 or can pay a $2 million buyout.

    There is a $15 million option for 2013 with another $2 million buyout.

    Seems like a great deal for each side. Cano will never go hungry again and the Yankees get some nice value out of stellar production.

  • I guess the fact that Sandy Alderson is their CEO means Bonds to the Padres would be rather unthinkable.

  • Spring Training this week? Swelliciousness.

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    Anonymous Dep said...

    I still think we'll never have a no-hitter. Its our cross to bear.

    Maybe 2008 is the year to break the curse. We'll see, I'll remain doubtful until that last out is recorded. I've seen way too many close calls to get my hopes up.

    I'm still not too thrilled with our backup 1B situation but I guess Damion Easley and Marlon are our guys. Lets hope Delgado needs no backup in '08.

    Mike, I thought of you when I saw this t-shirt.


    11:10 AM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Dep, that is simply not acceptable. Spring Training = optimism.

    Now, come mid-year, as a Met fan, you can be as pessimistic as you want. But not this week!

    As for the t-shirt, I have seen it. Good stuff.

    As for backup first base....dare I say, Shawn Green? I'd love Craig Wilson though...he should make you feel a little better. Also Tatis could serve as a decent option off the bench as well.

    11:32 AM

    Anonymous DG said...

    I've been way too politically obsessed to post much around here lately. I know that's a crime, but that's where it's at. Thank goodness for pitchers and catchers! We got our man, but still a pretty pedestrian offseason in a way.

    I will go out on a limb and predict that we will finally see a no hitter in 2008. Who will it be? Ollie. Though I must admit the Mets have never had four guys (excluding the Duque who'd probably pull a calf muscle with two outs and two strikes in the ninth) who could conceivably throw a no hitter in the season since the early 70's. So, I'm bullish on no hitters this year.

    As for first base, I've got no worries, short term, as Anderson and Easley should be fine. Long term is a different crisis all together. A Delgado injury would be a mess and probably precipitate a trade.

    More importantly, I think the lack of a second right handed pinch hitter/outfielder/first baseman is the only serious weakness left unaddressed. Have to remember that as a catcher Castro does not qualify as a viable nightly pinch hitter from the right side. So, Mench could have some value to spell RC/MA & CD. I cannot really think of anyone else out there.

    Churchy? Churchy? Lovable and adorable? Well, not yet in my mind. Santana has not erased a questionable move for me. I still think this team with Estrada at catcher and Milledge in right is better. He's Church to me; he's gotta earn the lovable, adorable bit. He earns it; it's his...

    And yes, the Braves can fart in their mouths for all I care!

    Finally, I see your video and raise you here:

    Could someone explain to me how I can insert an active link?

    11:56 AM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Bullish on no-hitters? That's what I'm talking about. Takes notes dep...

    A Delgado injury would be a mess and probably precipitate a trade. And who do we trade?

    As stated, Green would be interesting, but he's a lefty. I still like Craig Wilson. He can hit 20 dingers. Not a pretty 20, but 20.

    As for Churchy, you will not find me arguing the trade was bad. But it's done and the Mets have two decent players with one that will surprise people. I can only work with what I'm given! We have Church so I have to look at his place on the team and I like it.

    I'll email you the active link insrtructions.

    12:11 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    ok ok ok!!!!

    I yield....

    We will not have one no-hitter in 2008 but three. that's right, THREE!

    From comments I'm reading this morning, the mets appear done on adding ML contract type players.

    Craig Wilson signed with someone else. (reds i think)

    The mets pooped on Mench's defense.

    I still like Shawn Green and like that idea, but that will never happen. I think our squad is our squad.

    12:31 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    the one above is me! sorry.

    12:31 PM

    Anonymous ossy said...

    1b options are mientkiewicz and green

    12:41 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Oh, Wilson is done? Hmmm....

    Green is worth a look and the Mets handled him well and with respect. What are his other options? Also, he might win a ring!

    Three no hitters? Jeez. Now you've done jinxed us.

    12:45 PM

    Anonymous Ignorant Booze-swilling Met Fan said...

    Still Green doesn't address the imbalance I wrote about earlier though I didn't mind him with us in NY. My best guess is that he's going to retire as I don't think he'll get the West Coast deal he's looking for.

    You know, on competitiveness alone we ought to be predicting Pedro breaks the drought. If he pitches like last year, however, he'll have to throw something like 175 pitches to get it done!

    And I admire your rational approach to the Lasto situation. You have moved on and dealt with it. I'm trying to get there bro; I'm tryin'!

    As for Tatis, he got his invite because he plays a corner infield spot and bats righty. We may be arguing over first base, but he may be it. I'd still be quite pissed if the Mets go north with Tatis over Gotay who really, really should not be having to fight for a roster spot after last year. The cards are frankly stacked against him.


    1:11 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    hahahahaha, from straight pessimism to a jinx in 2 posts! I'm like a corvette!!!!!!!!

    My kingdom for a no-hitter. Just one.

    1:11 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    Willie seems to hate Ruben Gotay from recent comments I heard from him.

    I would not be surprised at all if Gotay doesnt make the 25-man. I dont think Willie wants him on there.

    1:12 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Green = imbalance. However, he is better than nothing. Too many lefties, but whatever man. Better than nothing! Besides, he is there for injury/disaster scenarios, no? Left handed bat off the bench.

    Gotay should be on the roster, yes. Is the bench full right now? I thought we had one open slot. But as dep says, Willie probably hates him. He hates anyone that produces. He rewards you for being old and bad.

    dep...we were going along fine until dg started making outlandish claims. Now we are screwed.

    1:16 PM

    Anonymous seattle steve said...

    Every time I see S. Kaz's name I ask myself ...what the &^%$%$#@ were they thinking when they traded him for Victor Z.

    1:31 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Every time I see S. Kaz's name I ask myself ...what the &^%$%$#@ were they thinking when they traded him for Victor Z.

    I wish my cell phone conversation was recorded when my friend called me and broke the news to me. Classic. Anger, confusion, despair, disbelief, etc. It was all there.

    1:36 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    Speaking of the Bill James handbook, I have to go baseball book shopping already. I keep holding it off but I have to get the Hardball TImes Preview to 2008, Bill James Handbook, the Baseball America book, and umm, other books.

    The reason Vazquez is on there is because he when he messes up he walks and even hits hitters than than give up hits. He'll also pitch amazing until the 4th inning when a hit parade begins.

    I've said it a million times already but Johan Santana vs Mets 2007, complete game 4 hit shutout, throwing only 90 pitches.

    I threw a perfect game on the hardest mode possible on MLB 2K7 on my XBox 360, with John Maine. Its a sign!

    I wanna go to the Mets fantasy camp thing but... I think the rules say you gotta be like 45 years old or someshit. Ridiculous, I have like 2 and a half decades to go.

    I saw that Erik Bedard press conference, talk about looking uncomfortable. It was an awkward press conference where alot of reporters just ended up asking Bavasi questions instead of Bedard. He wouldn't have been a media darling in New York or Boston. He would have been the silent assassin.

    How do these guys on the Colbert Report and Daily Show keep a straight face while asking these questions?

    I guess Frenchy is more like Lastings Milledge, which was the original "comparision" and debate that came up when both were prospects. Remember the good ol' days of Jeff Francouer, Lastings Milledge, and Delmon Young? Ahh...

    What is up with that Miller Lite though? haha, what an idiot.

    Fernando Tatis has been in the organization since last year. He played the whole year in New Orleans, I guess it made the news now.

    Oh and umm, fantasy baseball again this year? I know I'm down!
    This year fuck ESPN, we're doing it on Yahoo!

    1:53 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Vazquez the '02 version maybe. But I'm sure Mr. James has his reasons. I mean, everyone else on the list looked right on.

    I threw a perfect game on the hardest mode possible on MLB 2K7 on my XBox 360, with John Maine. Its a sign!

    I participated in a no-hitter for a few innings back in high school. Does that count for anything?

    There are rules for the fantasy camp? I don't think so. Younger guys are allowed to go as long as their money is green.

    Jeff Francouer, Lastings Milledge, and Delmon Young? Ahh...

    Funny thing is, Milledge could still be the best of the lot!!!! Especially more valuable if he can stick in center, which he might be able to do.

    RE: Tatis. Good stuff. I'm dumb. I should run the posts by you for factual accuracy.

    I'm down with FBB again. I guess someone needs to come in last place.

    2:06 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    I'm down for some fantasy ball if y'all do a league.

    eh, who pays attention to Fernando Tatis??!

    I only care if he hits 2 grand slams in the same inning or something cool.

    3:14 PM

    Anonymous ossy said...

    360 is kinda wack. i played call of duty 4 on it and the controller weighed like 4 pounds. i'd rather play it on my ps3

    fernando tatis doesnt deserve to have his name mentioned on this blog.

    did benny just knock mcnamee?

    3:40 PM

    Anonymous benny blanco from da bronx said...

    What I'm not allowed to knock him? The guy was the man! I loved him as a teacher and taught me that "lots of things happen in major league clubhouses" in response to our question on steroids in baseball but... having beer cans in a picture that's going to be used in court?
    That's just dumb! Especially Miller Lite, ugh.

    Fernando Tatis has cool sideburns man. He has the Lash Lerouex look!

    Dep what's your email?

    3:55 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

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    5:04 PM

    Anonymous fernando tatis said...

    There's my name suckers! There's my name! Read it: F-E-R-N-A-N-D-0 T-A-T-I-S!

    5:12 PM

    Anonymous dG said...

    DG accepts all responsibility....

    5:13 PM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Dep...You might want to delete that! I think you'll start getting spam if it's on there. Just some food for thought.

    Ossy is a XBOX hater. Take what he says with a grain of salt. Jelousy is not a flattering trait my friend.

    Tatis was looking like the 3b of the next decade heading into 2000.

    5:18 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    Crap, I didnt really think about that. can you delete that post or do I have to do it?

    Damn you benny!!!!! :-p

    Neyer picked Tatis on his list back in the day. he had a monster 1999. MONSTER!

    The xbox360 has its issues like all machines. I am currently on my 3rd unit, but I love it. its fun.

    5:28 PM

    Anonymous benny said...

    Oops, sorry about. I wasn't thinking about ya dep. Very selfish of me to just wanna invite you...

    5:37 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    Benny, I think you were just trying to get me spammed. Just admit it!!!!! ;)

    5:57 PM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    awwww snit. Tony Armas Jr. WELCOME TO THE FOLD. minor league deal.

    eh, whatever. as AAA starter insurance, we could do worse. His numbers stink the last bunch of years, but that's what AAA insurance guys have, shitty #'s.

    If he starts games for us, we in trouble to begin with. But i guess it could happen considering that only Pelfrey could be ahead of him in depth.

    7:39 PM

    Anonymous ossy said...

    im not a xbox hater. it has its plus/minus. its live feature is awesome. just dont like the controller or the red ring of death (right Dep?). that shit is not cool. ps3 is hot but is lacking in several areas (online even though its free). but you cant deny that the ps1/2/3 controller is the best one ever.

    11:58 PM

    Blogger Sidd Finch said...

    Maybe they are looking for Armas to fill the Sele role. He has always known how to pitch, but can't seem to avoid injuries.

    10:43 AM

    Anonymous Dep said...

    yea i do like the PS controller

    and the red circle of death sucks. I never want to see it again. I dont think i should have to get my 4th friggin' 360!!! lol

    The one thing i dont like about the PS3 is the game catalog. I cant say there's more than a handful of games on there that i would want that arent out for the 360. But like i said, I want BluRay, so i might as well get the PS3.

    Tony Armas!!! booyah!

    PS. John Rocker is a moron.

    11:04 AM

    Blogger mr. met said...

    Dep...I deleted your email. Benny should have it by now so you should be spam free.

    11:50 AM


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